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Mmmm, the little Alan Eaton 45 mono-blocks are performing so well in the larger room w/ the K-horns that I finally got off my ass and ordered the bare minimum parts required to get my Heresy speakers operational again. I was really missing them and since i have the constant urge to swap pieces around I needed to repair these and get them back in rotation. :muscle: it was a perfect rainy morning project.

I’m playing around w/ a really wide stance tonight, these center image so tightly i was curious to see just how far i could spread them to add more width and still keep tight center image. I managed to get them 11 ft apart and still keep things tight. Not bad. :pinched_fingers:

Immeasurable amounts of fun can be had w/ a good front end and a bunch of relatively moderately to budget priced speakers if you manage to get the amplification pairings right. The little Heresy is not an easy speaker to get some actual performance out of but when you do they sing :pinched_fingers:

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I’m surprised you never got the Forte. I really enjoyed them when I head them at @Snooze house. Ant that was under sub optimal placement. They are BIG sounding speakers, like a big brother to the Heressy.

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still willing to show them off to any curious!

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Oh wonderful, then I can try them out too :innocent:

I will earn my keep by helping you fix it, no free rides!

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Yes as long as you don’t mind the long ride down this way. :+1:

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I just did enough to get them operational today. They still require more work. :+1:

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The Forte were a desire and i would have grabbed a pair had they stumbled across my path but the K-horns got snagged first and that essentially negated the desire.
The next speaker, if it happens, needs to be something different enough from anything else in the house to make it worthwhile BUT as my tastes refine it becomes harder and harder to find something I can actually afford that also fits my desires, wants and specifications :triumph:

It’s not a matter of selling things to afford others, I enjoy the variety and despite all i have heard to date do not find any one speaker or combination of equipment of more preference than others thus a small hoard shall it become …:smiling_imp: (I was measuring up the last available bedroom in the basement just the other day :thinking:)

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Decided to play a game of Fuck-around-Find-out this gorgeous Saturday morning. My energy levels were high and since one or two folks have mentioned upgrading to speakers beyond the capabilities of the Klipsch RP600M I said to myself :thinking: (I have been using these to watch tv and stream music wirelessly in my bedroom for at least 2 years now, they have not touched any serious equipment in a long while)

Thus even with the stands at least 4” too tall for this set-up I decided to keep going and simply flip the speakers upside down half way through my listening session to get the tweeters ear level and get a better idea all around of the sound character.

Guys, if you can afford really nice fancy speakers go ahead and purchase the MOST speaker you can afford. I will warn you though, the ROOM, what’s in it, seating and speaker position along with the front end buys allot of value in the long run.

I’ve watched repeated videos and read allot of forum posts on the internet from people who genuinely enjoy this speaker and I add myself to that group. Let’s assume there is maybe $150 worth of material cost in these speakers with every other dollar going to R&D, marketing and some profits eventually. In other words very cheap build.

The ratio of enjoyment to value of this speaker is incredible and if you can’t understand this then maybe you need to readjust your expectations of this hobby. :flushed:

I’m going through various genres with a smile on my face, And you are either a fan of fun music presentation or not. I’m not deaf, I can hear some frequency spikes, I know the cabinets resonate but I also know that these are ridiculously easy to make invisible, they punch when the music calls for it and they stage and image ridiculously well, all for penny’s, (the speaker cables I’m using cost more than 2 pair of these :flushed:)

I’m all for nice things, I absolutely love shopping, but I’m also practical and live for good value to my dollar spent. These cheap, light, sensitive, easy to work with speakers that play an extremely diverse range of genre’s with character and colorful presentation are keepers for me I would rather spend money on my front end and a variety of amplifiers to experiment with. These are cheap fun for this hobby, next time you feel the need to spend your hard earned money remember you have many choices don’t be a sheep :sheep: just following along with the flavor of the week, look at things that have lost their grace and can be had for pennies on the dollar and remember this hobby should be about having fun at some point too, perfection I am learning is only between the ears of the user and cannot be found in the opinions of others, the equipment itself or slick marketing.

Fight me if you want, I’m in an energetic mood :crazy_face: :smiling_imp:. I’m NOT pushing anything, just reminding folks it’s great to have fun in this hobby too, seeking perfection may be your thing, more power to you but BETTER is strictly to the ear of the listener and the tongue of the seller.

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Since you love to tinker, pick up a kit from GR research for those and see how the develop. You can always change it back.

I’m sure you can pick up a pair of the speakers cheaper than the kit price nowadays since they’ve sold so many of those RP-600.

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I considered it but adjusting the speaker characteristics then simply ruins the fun aspect and character of the speaker, i would rather purchase a speaker built with a flat frequency response in mind from the original design perspective, AKA like the Philharmonic BMR speakers :hugs:

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Steve Guttenberg agrees, lol!

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Thousands of folks agree, most of them simply listening to music or watching TV. Once you train yourself to listen for particular character traits and start falling into the audiophile abyss though it’s pretty hard to take anything Klipsch makes too seriously…:crazy_face: Doesn’t matter if it’s one of their $100 or $36K speakers…All i’m saying is that even cheaply built speakers can be fun. I had completely forgotten that i could have some fun w/ these and reminded myself today have some fun instead of stressing over listening to my equipment :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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I still have my Klipsch KG4s that I bought new in the 80’s. With that passive
sub they sounded best in the corners too, especially in my old apt. which had a
coved ceiling above them. Hope to get them upgraded someday.

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I popped these into the system initially without making any adjustments and had to back off the subwoofer within 2 tracks and then left them pulled out way into the room not to add any more mid bass madness :joy: and then a few tracks later after i flipped them upside down to get the tweeters in line, i negated the toe-in to keep my ears from bleeding :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: still though can’t deny they don’t back down off almost any genre and give it a go despite their lack of cost quality, they were engineered well and that’s impressive to me. The fact that someone bothered to take corrective actions, (making upgrade kit) including Klipsch themselves (vs2) speaks volumes to their popularity.

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https://forum.sonusapparatus.com/t/what-have-you-purchased-recently/73/5548?u=nickmimi

@EstrangedBaron , how is the subwoofer integration coming along?

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It’s coming along, I’ve reintroduced my equi=core conditioner into my system so I can have enough plugs for everything haha. My Tyr’s seem to be the most sensitive to dc offset and being fed 120V, so I have them plugged into a CMX2+ and everything else is fed by the equi=core.

I’m still getting the subs dialed in. They’re currently crossed over at 40hz which sounds pretty decent so far, but I’ll probably invest in a measurement mic soon here to get them “just right”. But even without having the subs perfectly dialed in, I’m really happy to have duals subs in my system again to enjoy the lower octaves.

Also worth mentioning, The VTF-TN1’s sound way better than my previous PB1000’s. This could be partially from the room treatment I have now (and the VTF-TN1’s costing twice as much lol), but I did listen to the SVS subs in three different spaces over the years and I was never really impressed by their fidelity, just their volume. Which is great for an HT or “party speaker” system, but not as much for 2ch. But I still think it’s better to have a sub than no sub at all, and I think the pb1000/sb1000 (or the newer “pro” versions) are a great place to start for most people. I’ll also admit that it can be pretty fun to shake the whole house with bass from time to time (my wife may beg to differ on that though haha). All that to say I’m very impressed by the performance of the HSU subs so far, I can already tell that the VTF-TN1’s have some finesse to them that my PB1000’s simply did not.

Anyways, the next step for my system will probably involve a measurement mic and/or a minidsp but for now I’m really happy with the subs. Maybe a turntable is in my future as well, but one step at a time with these things haha. Hope everyone has a nice weekend and thanks @NickMimi for following up!

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