I watched the video at 2x speed and the only thing I got is this dude really really really likes his encores lol they do seem properly priced.
Klipsch Forte are known entities for their big bold sound. That’s not In question. How audiophile level you want want your sound signature to be is what question is.
The Exogal stack will do its job, I have experienced that proof positive, your wallet, availability and desires is up to you my friend
The thing about starting an audiophile sounding 2ch. Is that im really more of a headphones guy
My headphones cover well that audiophile need for me, and because I love variety I do want the “loud” “fun” speakers.
I have no doubt in the klipsch forte, but it will also depend on what is available when I decide to buy.
Edit: Raandom comment I really really love to put my klipsch at, lets say 81, 82 decibels and my neighbour is forced to enjoy my kpop @Littledrummerboy , my jpop, hiphop, metal, for jazz I think ive done 85db. Lets add some psytrance and disco too with the party boy snares.
This is obviously at 3 or 4 am, I hate my neighbour and my listening room is wall to wall with his room the subwoofers also helped a lot to get that BOLD THICC sound
By the way this noise is legal in the part of the city I live in.
@dB_Cooper , I could not help myself, what makes your eyeball twitch more, the silver or red component mixed in on the rack?
Oh jeez, good thing he’s never seen my audio rack with mismatched wood, chassis, and very little isolation products
I hadnt researched the klipsch forte up until today and now I have my doubts about them.
First of all I have to finish my headphone collection and buy a vehicle.
So my rp600m arent going anywhere for 2 to 4 years, BUT Id like to know what I will be getting into when I finally upgrade my entry level 2ch.
The forte are actually floorstanders, they look great but too short (?) to be floorstanders. ive never had floorstanders before so I dont really know how the acoustics work out. The fortes look like theyre made for quite a bigger room than mine and im also not moving out.
Also the forte 3 and 4 are under a special tax bracket category and so are most speakers, so they cost 34% percent more than in the US plus customs agent fees plus shipping and sellers commision.
Importing is a pain in the ass half the time sellers wont even send me headphones/smaller amps.
I didnt think I would have to make such a big jump just like that, but those are then costs here.
Klipsch forte 3 are $6515, thats 11 times what I paid for the rp600m. Maybe its worth it?
Klipsch forte 4 are $9150.
the used speaker marker is completely dead here in mexico so that doesnt help either. And people who do sell good used speakers do local pickup only and my city doesnt have such a market.
But I dont have to worry about that, as I said im years away from getting a 2ch. Im just inquiring.
Ok so let me see if I can paint for you the large picture of how rough the speaker market is.
Kef ls50 meta are $2200 wtf why even if I manage to import them myself it would still be around $1800.
Tekton Mini lore upgraded are about $1000 US only; if I manage to import them theyd be more like $1800 as well.
Dali rubicon 2 bookshelves $3600 I dont know this brand lol
Definite technology dymension dm60 to dm80 range from $4000 to $6660, and they are towers with integrated subwoofers, looks questionable
Magnepan LRS+ $1850 same overprice as the ls50 and the mini lore, although I dont know if magnepans would work in my space.
Focal Aria k2 906 bookshelves $3100 idk seems ok
Lets look at subs.
Lets say I want some small modest pair of subwoofers for my room, the pair of 6.5" kef kc62 are $4200
Mmmm maybe just one Rel 10" t/9x then? Oh thats $2350 not bad (?)
A pair of focal cub evo 8" subs $1200 hey I can pay that and dual 8" works for my room size.
So I could get the focal arias plus their subs for $4300, that should sound great based on I like focal headphones lol but im already feeling the overprice and diminishing returns in that total.
So when I build my 2ch if I want to save money I would have to scrape the used market for months and convince the seller to send stuff. Its a shame I cant hear them in person. If I import used the extra costs reduce the value proposition by 80% unless its heavily underdeclared and that means no warranty yay and maybe suspicious because of the shipping cost.
Sorry for the rant. Its the first time I check what is actually available here in mexico, not counting used speakers because I have never seen anyone selling something worthwhile on the marketplace.
Honestly given your situation, I’d consider buying drivers and components for a quality DIY speaker and get someone there to build you cabinets. You’d get around a lot of the import/tax fees and you’d get a wonderfully built cabinet from a craftsman that would finish it exactly how you want.
All you’d have to provide is the build plans. How handy are you?
I have an idea to work this thought process from a different angle and will start a thread for you @MacDLaw and others once I collect my thoughts a bit
I don’t want to clog up the Klipsch thread with non-relevant info
This is a great idea I had already thought of but I kinda discarded because I wanted to hear a “brand” model.
We can build them, i mean me and my friend who has a workshop with enough tools and is an audiophile.
But we cant design them, we would need very specific schematics to make it right, and also being able to get the right drivers for the right box.
Even my friend with the workshop preferred to buy the focal chora 826 for around 2800 dlls, rather than build something. Also it had retail warranty. Those blow my klipsch away but I think its not enough of an upgrade, comparing it to the cheap ass klipsch 600 plus my cheap subs its really not that far off. The diminishing returns hit way to hard in this particular case.
The $4300 focal aria plus the cheap focal subs may just be enough of an upgrade.
In my current position trying the klipsch forte sounds impossible $$$, maybe only if I do a startup that works I could afford to.
I also dont know how my smaller room would react to floorstanders because its has shitty tiles that are uneven height and are off by 1 to 4 degrees lol, my bookshelf stands kinda solve that because of the special gums they stand on keeps them leveled.
Still, building a diy that doesnt include the wood (we can get the wood here) is a nice idea indeed.
True. Ive off topiced the thread into general speaker recommendations, it could be moved.
Also lets see what you come up with, but I do need to get a vehicle before a 2ch and that will take time.
I cannot believe I have been wasting the abilities of my Alan Eaton 45 mono-blocks on my Spatial Audio M4 Triode Masters for an entire year now Swapping out gear is time consuming and it took me way long to drag my Alan Eaton 45’s down to the main listening room and FINALLY mate them to the speakers they were meant to be with Folks we have a winning combination in Klipsch K-horns mated to an Alan Eaton using Tamura Iron, 45 DHT tube based amplifier
Weight, weight and more weight to the sound character is what these monoblocks add and that is EXACTLY what the K-horns needed to sound better than ever in MY room, YMMV these speakers in my opinion were created to sound big, bold, and rich just dripping with character and hitting notes clearly with authority and a sense of force that can fill you from the inside out, sensory candy !
Lastly, before I forget to note; quiet, completely noise free, no hiss at all currently no matter how hard I listen and max out the pots, ear completely up against the tweeters this is more impressive than ANY other amplifier I have put to these to date and to top it off the hum pots had a wide range of dead, noise free operation to choose from, basically 75% of each pot. For those whom this particular comment is lost upon, these speakers are 104 db sensitive, I have managed to get extremely quiet noise / hiss free operation from them often but never complete dead silence, my Decware 341.5 and my Yamamoto got really really close but the Eaton’s which were not quiet at all elsewhere simply synergized perfectly w/ the K-horns .
On a really great note for me, for the first time ever in earnestness, I have found a combo of speaker & amplifier I don’t want to mess with for fear of losing the synergy. We shall see how long I can hold out …
I played hooky today and woke up early with way too much energy to waste gratuitous photos included.
Are those scuba weights? lol
3lbs. of lead shot/ball bearings each… . I have learned to shop in my own closets and storage areas, they were sitting around just collecting dust. Figured let’s try ‘em.
Just for experimentation, can you do a full session without any of them and let me know what you hear instead? It can be beneficial feedback for myself too
I’ll do the best I can to provide any worthwhile feedback. At some point and I’m pretty sure I’ve reached it in my own abilities, it all just sounds stupendously wonderful to me
@Veritas , i do not believe i am using the weights appropriately, i can see weight being used to dampen vibrations on a tube amplifier or maybe even a piece of equipment that may have a thin chassis.
Neither of the pieces i am weighing down are light, have thin chassis design, poor footers nor do i really see a reason to attempt to reduce vibration too considering they are already placed on a rack using spiked feet between levels
There is no noticeable difference that i personally can tell currently between using the weights or not on this set-up BUT you gave me an idea of where to more appropriately apply the weights since you forced me to actually better think about trying to maximize some performance out of each piece
Have you looked at something like these? Not weight bearing but vibration minimizing?
@hifiDJ uses these if I recall
I would purchase those if i could get 10 for $100…
I’ve been using these. They’re standardized weight calibration pieces made by a company called Ohaus. Solid brass and you can find individual pieces on eBay for roughly $10 bucks. I happened to find a guy that had about ten of them for sale and offered to buy three for $7.50 a piece and he took it. I’ve got one on top of my amp, preamp and my optical to Ethernet adaptor. Not so much for vibration there but just to make the thing sit still since it’s so light it would move around. I stuck a very thin film of sorbathane on the bottom.
They also happen to look adorable.
It’s not a mass loading tweak! A bit different approach to the weight, my thinking is in metal chassis amps, tap on them and there is a bit of a ringing sound. One or two of these could deaden it a bit. Like an iso acoustic for the top rather than a footer.
Very cool, I have seen these in other places and affordable as hell. Sorbathane is a good move to prevent any marring of the chassis