Audeze headphone thread, LCD 2 / 3 / X / 4 / 5 / 24

There have been plenty of reviews and praises of the Audeze LCD2 pf, I’m sure, so I’ll just share some fun observations from listening:

  • Despite being laid back, it’s not a chill-out headphone for me. If I use it while I work, it keeps distracting me.
  • Treble can be pleasantly sharp.
  • I love the way sound rings and reverberates. I was really questioning myself on that, but it is very noticeable when listening to Summertime Sadness by Vitamin String Quartet (yay for vibrating strings).
  • Still love the wooden cups!

Speaking of cups: the earpads are falling apart on me. Are the available LCD pads on the Audeze website the same ones?

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The pads on the site will fit, they are not 100% the same but are probably better than the memory foam variant.

I did feel the replacements compressed or were more shallow than what was on the headphone stock.

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Today I was in the mood to listen to the LCD 2 again and I’ve been making interesting progress on the question of why I do not find them relaxing.

Short notes:

  • All the sounds have a noticeable intensity to them
  • “Background” sounds are introduced in an interesting way that catches my attention. Whispers, quiet pianos. They seem more prominent somehow, perhaps also because they seem more intense. So any new sound in a song makes me perk up again.
  • Sound placement is quite interesting. I notice much more strongly when a tone comes only from one cup and where (front, back, far, close) it comes from.

All in all, I’d say these three points make me listen actively to the songs, whether I want to or not :smile:

I still can’t quite place the cause of this. Is it “planar bass”? (haven’t listened to a lot of planars yet) Is it their overall warmth and laid-backness that creates a different balance than usual?
I find this fascinating because I read someone else claiming the LCD2 really taught them about warmth and relaxation and… it’s just the opposite for me? Will have to compare more with my other hps.

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Hot damn I love Audeze

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So, what did you break?

That Jot A I got with my second LCD-R had the power switch break in shipping. I just hadnt bothered to plug it in to check until just now and found out.

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Big oof

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Hello all, time for me to share my impressions of the LCD-24’s!
I’d like to give a shout-out to this forum for being a place that I can feel comfortable trying to express my non-professional opinions in a long winded manner, and @M0N in particular for inviting me here!
I very much enjoy lurking and reading, garnering and gleaning all the great knowledge being shared by you fine folks!

Let’s begin.

What follows is a review and detailed measurements–just fucking kidding!

A little about me: I’m a critical listener, as in, I’m hyper critical of each new piece of gear that I buy, sort of an anti- “I know I’m going to love this,” because instead I’ve got it in my gullible mind to listen for every flaw I’ve read anywhere on the internet. So it takes me a few weeks to settle down, shut my brain up, and forget to look for everything that I won’t like, and that’s when the magic happens…

This is my first foray into higher end cans.

I’m an Audeze fan. My first expensive cans (heh, how times change) were the LCD2 Classics, and while I enjoyed them immensely, I found them, or at least the pair that I had, to be extremely glaring in the upper mids, being particularly shouty and unpleasant with the wrong music. And they had some rumble down low, but not near enough to satisfy my tendencies as a bass head.

After that it was the LCD-X, which for me is still much beloved. I’m indeed lucky in that I’ve got a pair that rumble and punch more than they should, proved later when I bought a pair of pre-fazor LCD2.2’s, and the X’s kept up quite well in the bass department, reaching down almost as low…but I wanted more, more of everything that both did well, with the one thing the X’s were missing in comparison, width. After reading what others here have written, I started looking again at the 24’s, which I’d lusted for from their introduction.
I also own a pair of OG Focal Clear’s and Elegia’s.

The 24’s that I received were basically brand new, and after one pass with leather care, smelled the part!

Then I settled in for my usual process of picking out every flaw and swapping cables and swapping amps and swapping them all back around again for hours upon hours, thinking and wondering whether or not there’s a channel imbalance, why did that guy sell them if they’re so great? And, am I, in fact, a dumb-ass? Do I even like the music I’m listening to? And all that sort of fun, generally crotchity and unpleasant crap I do till I’ve exhausted myself enough to simmer down and forget to be a pain in my own ass for a second, and just let the magic come.

I agree with what @Hazi59, @Delta9K, @bmn1251 and others have said. My pair doesn’t have have too much in the way of unseemly shoutiness or sharpness, but did glare a bit with some music initially…it depended heavily on the cables and the amp. Overall the 24’s do sound like a super LCD-2PF, to me, and at least this pair.

I listen to pretty much anything and everything.

Hip-Hop, EDM, Classic Rock, Metal, Classical, Rousing Film Scores, plenty of crappily recorded Pop, Synth-Wave, etc, and these do all of that very, very well for me.

I’ve never heard Metallica’s “One,” sound more bad ass, the kick drum punch is perfect, while all around are those guys doing their craziness with their guitars, and these cans did it with a dynamism that damned near approached the OG Clear’s, which I was not expecting, all while being somehow surprisingly mellow.

Amps used:

Sigh. I own three, yes, I own three Monolith Liquid Platinums. Let’s just say I got a bit carried away there, and being gullible, and OCD, as I’ve mentioned, simply had to have three of them. Why? Well because I’d bought some very expensive 12AU7’s to roll, and I wasn’t about to pull Amperex 7316’s in and out or do likewise to a pair of Mullard 57 Long Plate Square Getters, was I? So I naturally needed a third amp to roll 6922’s and other 12AU7’s in. You see, all perfectly logical, and totally not OCD.

Other amps: Neve RNHP (astounding with the LCD-24’s, fucking astounding, and as an aside; I HATE that the premium Audeze cable sounds so good, because now there’s another purchase I need to make for XLR), and a Matrix HPA-3B. The HPA-3B definitely brings out some shrillness and glare on some songs, but oddly enough, is never bright with the Focal Clear OG’s, go figure.

Signal Chains are strange, mysterious things.

The rest of the Chain: PC as my Roon core going out to a powered USB hub via an AQ Carbon cable, and out with a Shiit Snake oil USB to my Gustard U18 DDC, SPDIF out from there with an AQ Forest to my Bifrost 2 (OG card).

I’ve swapped all this stuff in and out, and even with the DDC, without that silly Sabrant USB hub in the path, music is noticeably less full.

And then there were the headphone cables; Audeze’s balanced black XLR, a Satin Audio Chimera II, and Cardas Clear-Light I bought from Drop. The latter two I was still in the process of burning in.
On the single-ended side of things: the basic black Audeze cables and their premium one that came with the 24’s.

Needless to say, all of this took quite some time to adjust to.

If you have read this far, by the way, my hat’s off to you, I’ve got lots more rambling to do!

The Mullard tubes are particularly slow to reach their best sound, taking about an hour to get there, but when they do, they are breathtaking, and trade blows with the 7316’s, which are amazing in their own right.
Depending on my mood, the Mullard midrange can lend a tad, just a tad, of shout here and there on some tracks, the Amperex’s less often, and the RNHP never.

This sensitivity seems purely mood dependent on my end, I simply don’t notice any shout whatsoever when I’m happy and grooving.

When I’m happy and my tubes are adequately warmed up, oh holy shit are these cans intoxicating… they are perfect for me, being both a blend of the things that I love in my X’s, ie, more detail, but with a mellowness that just let’s me be enveloped in the emotional majesty of music. The bass is sumptuous. Everything sounds analogue, natural, detailed without being fatiguing (but the chain is uber important), and these things take the 3 dimensional aspect that I adore in my other Audeze’s and the Focal Clear OG’s and then drive it up a notch.

They rumble and punch and slam more on the side of the 2PF’s, with more details being present, like the X’s, but wider and more well layered, with a stage that is excellent in depth and placement. Back up singers can clearly be heard, even though the bass warbles my Adam’s apple.

On Halsey’s, “Clementine,” I can hear her breathe in while tilting away and in my mind slightly to the left of the microphone before singing into it again, something I’d never noticed before. It’s present in the X’s now that I know that it’s there, but less perceptible.

It took a good couple of weeks for me to stop being wary of these cans and learn to fall in love with them, but after that, eargasms.

I had a friend from work who’s gotten into audio come over for a listening session last night, and we both did the manly thing of looking the hell away from each other and then laughing at the fact we’d both been crying at the beauty of the music. Blackmill’s “Let it be,” Queensryche’s “Silent Lucidity,” and Skynyrd’s, “Simple Man,” were just some of the things we’d listened to that welled up those emotions.

And that’s what it’s all about.

Thank you, sincerely, all of you, and thank you for reading my ramblings!

Now to figure out which horrendously expensive cable I’m going to buy. I’m looking at the Arctic Cables Gladius. Fuck me, I need it.

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Really dig your enthusiasm and am stoked you are having a blast with that headphone. Enjoyed your write up.

That is a sweet looking cable visually and the performance potential.

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I love the Danacable Lazuli Ultra with mine if you happen across one used. I’ve considered parting with my 24 recently because it doesn’t synergize as well with my primary chain, but have this far been unable to bring myself to let it go. For many of the reasons you listed, it has just matched my preferences so well that really only the Susvara and MySphere 3.2 have made me even consider it.

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I have been eyeballing that Lazuli Ultra!

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Thank you!

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:joy: Hilarious

If you happen upon an LTA MZ2 That amp was fantastic with the 24, and a Danacables would pair great

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Thank you, that amp looks sweet!

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Loved that pairing as well

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I like the way you worded that. It wasn’t typical sharpness, but a glare or sheen. For me, it didnt matter what chain or cable I used. Because of that, I still believe there is some manufacturer variance at play as well.

The best news though is that you are enjoying it. That’s all that matters in the end.

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Thanks Hazi, and I think you’re right about there being manufacturer variance at play as well

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Could someone please highlight the main differences between lcd 3, 4, 4z and 24

Im looking to know which suits me best

I like audezes to be mid forward even if its aggresive and good treble resolution and bite, also a nice rumbling low end

I have the lcd2.2 pf so I want to complement them

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Can’t really give a compare for the ones you listed since I’ve only briefly demo’d the 4, but relative to the 2.2pf, the 24 is going to be more technically capable, pushing the mids forward a bit, and giving a more almost Focal like wraparound effect to the staging. They can reach down and rumble a bit, but I would say a bit more focused/tight than 2.2pf, and the treble region is more airy and present.

FWIW, I did have a 2.2pf on loan for a bit, and decided against purchasing as I felt it’d largely serve a similar role as my 24. 2.2pf would probably be a better match for my current primary chain, though.

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Planning on a bit of a comparison tonight between the 24 that I got yesterday and the 4 which I’ve had for awhile. Just an initial comparison to see what I think and will document my impressions here. Setup is Bricasti MC1 → Schiit Folkvanger (high gain but impedance multiplier on for 24, not the 4). Same stock Audeze cable on both. Both stock cables have low hours and the 24 are new and not broken in so take these with a grain of salt haha.

Some build and functionality notes. I like the look of the 4 a lot more but it’s heavier and doesn’t have the vented headband. The 24 is lighter and very understated in looks. I owned a 4z a couple years ago and this is the same in build apart from the driver mesh color. I do like the magnesium bits on the 24 in comparison to the steel parts on the 4. And the pads are way softer on the 4, the pads on the 24 are pretty firm in comparison but still comfortable. The firmer pads on the 24 makes them clamp a lot more than the 4.

Will update with some sound impressions soon.

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