Which Forza cable is it? Can be a pretty solid deal given 2PF goes for around 650USD/600EUR
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I don’t know which one it is.
Unfortunately, it also has a 3.5 mm jack, not a 6.3 mm jack.
Can do without the cable and should go down another 150€ if it were up to me 
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With the Audeze, the cable hardly plays a role, I’ve noticed, or I’m so old that I no longer notice it .
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Either it’s an older design or a sleeved copper or hybrid or Claire or Claire hybrid, max 100EUR used value I’d say
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So 700€ with headphones and cable,proof of hearing curve with serial number and the case.
Unfortunately I can check the number in the headphones myself without having to remove the pad on site which makes it difficult.
The paper can say whatever you want .
But otherwise it really doesn’t look bad.And thanks for the reply,
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No worries. This might actually be a 2.1PF from the looks of the wooden connectors
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There should be a number on the inside of the headband on the plastic piece the metal rod goes through.
With that headband there’s a very good chance it’s a 2.2. Early 2.2’s still used the wooden connectors.
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Thank you both, I will consider it should I decide to do so.
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When you have some quality listening time, tell if you find it obliberates the 2C? Its night and day for me
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Unfortunately, I only know the 2C, but I haven’t heard of any others.
What I can say is that the 2C is quite transducible.
On the Singxer Sda 2, although it has power, it was good overall, but it lacked the shimmer, the final touch and quality, but otherwise it was good.
When the Euforia arrived, I was disappointed at first, but it was because of the cane tubes.
After a bit of tube rolling it was better and the quality was there.
Because of the purchase of the Aeon R/T I had a hybrid amplifier built and got to know the 2C in a different way, especially in the bass and overall performance it was better than the Euforia amplifier.
It wasn’t far off from the Euforia, some things were better, other areas maybe not so good.
And the 2C can dish out some serious bass.
The amp is really good, it depends a bit on the tubes in the end.
The last six months I have invested a lot of time and a bit of money in the Euforia with the purchase of Vcap capacitors.
Definitely the Euforia is superior to the Custombau amplifier and many new areas have opened up and expanded with the 2C.
I can’t estimate it 100% but it is possible that the 2C could be above or equal to the 2.2.
How it would be with the 2.2 in the configuration is hard to say, probably only in subtle levels.
If I don’t know myself better,probably one of the Zmf headphones as well as a Lcd 3 or maybe lcd 4 would be a more serious upgrade for new wickets than the Lcd 2.2.
That’s why it’s really hard for me to find the right way and also to decide.
Ultimately, it wouldn’t be wrong to have a 2.2 for collector’s reasons.
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IMO, the LCD-2 PF 2.2 is leagues better than the 2C. I actually didn’t mind the 2C, but it never wowed me. But the PF is way way better IMO as the mids are way more natural and lifelike and don’t have the goofy peak at 1 to 3 K (roughly in that area) that makes vocals extremely shouty. The PF also has wider soundstage and the bass is way more layered and textured and not as flabby.
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The 2c is ok sounds good, no obvious problems, until you switch to the 2pf and realize the former is bloated, unrefined and has very poor bass texture and soundstage in comparison
And im not trying to tell you to sell or upgrade your 2c, you are right to enjoy it and like it a lot, but the fact is there is a better version out there which keeps the beautiful tuning and improves upon it.
Also I know a lot of people (specially measurement fellas) that like the fazor version way more, maybe there are also guys that prefer the 2c.
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It really is a wakeup call when you hear a 2c and a 2pf side by side, you realize how far off the 2c really is from the pf
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@Littledrummerboy you were absolutely right about these, this is the most pleasing tuning, every genre sounds good and the older headband doesnt suck at alle
An you told me so long ago lol
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Don’t do this to me bro. Don’t make me want one again hahaha.
Yeah, the LCD2pf is a sweetheart. Alot of people including me generally prefer slightly laid back styles and I found the pre fazor to be so awesome because of how laid back it is but engaging enough to be exciting as well. Not to mention it’s organicness, super amazing headphone!
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Why not try the lcd 3 prefazor this time around 
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Yeah idk lol. Think It could be awesome for sure but think I need to focus on other gear atm. I still need a headphone amp for the fostex pw.
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Have fun and remember one always comes back where he was happy
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When I was digging around for info on @don 's PF before buying it, we found out a bit. There was a transition era between 2.1 and 2.2 where the full wood cups were being used, and serial numbers were out of order. A few 2.1s will have a higher serial number than some 2.2s. Audeze customer support was actually pretty helpful but even they dont have archival records.
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Mac’s bikini bottom LCD trip
Well ive spent a week with the 2pf
maybe to soon to judge but is the most allrounder 4x4 awd I can just play my stuff in random, chill without starting to think I should swap headphones
The LCDX Ive had about 4 months in total will find a happy new home
Its chill in its darkish nature, the bass is boostable as everything else, slight eq only works best, strong bass and the mids are so out there
The LCDXC I had on lent for about 3 weeks
It was fantastic, because while the X is chill its better when it can be aggressive, but this is a lot brighter stock than the openback, which makes it more balanced a bit like the 2pf but much more in your face, feels more detailed than the regular a little less resolving, and it can actually attack more
The LCD2C imo is 1 or 2 tiers below the headphones above as is its price, its a little weak in comparison specially in the bass department and texture but it does have a very warm inviting tonality and the big vocals, possibly I would have liked more the closed or fazor versions
I also have an audeze sine ive seen them as low as 150usd and they kill it at the price id say they do 90% of what the lcd2c does, but with better tonality more linear on the bass but less extended, and much smaller soundstage bc its a small closed back, imaging still as good
To close it of I tested the Audeze EL-8 for 2 or 3 days, its the third iteration of the audeze sine, but it sounds a lot more like the 2C tonally, and is less extended in both ends, a lot warmer in comparison to the neutral-ish sine
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@Edectus saw you got in a 24 (and a d8kp lol), how has it been so far?
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