Subwoofers

I’m very happy with my T5X. I think demoing subs is a tricky thing because so much of their sound is going to be dependent on your room and your setup.

That said, I absolutely love my config and can only imagine what a next level jump to the S/510 would bring to the bottom line. Work them over on price as much as you can! Good luck.

Yeah I’m nervous about their room and treatments impacting my perception.

There were asking $3.6k for the pair but said they would be willing to take $3k. They are 2750 new going up to 3k next month and other listings I found as comps were mostly around $3.5k to $3.7k on used listings for a pair.

It’s a bit higher than initially I wanted to a spend if they are great I can make it work. The Rythmik f12 SE would be around $2k used but I can’t demo those. So not sure which direction to go in.

:man_shrugging:

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I have been incredibly pleased with the abilities of their T9/X, i cannot fathom these not surpassing the lower series in every form and fashion possible. If you can afford these it’s a no brainer in my book :man_shrugging:
I repeat their lower 2 channel are not only sufficient but exceptional performers, IMO your room will be more of an issue than the subs performance.

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Ended up passing in my local rel options way too expensive. Considering this guy does anyone have experience with Vienna acoustics subs or the Vienna grand line? Looks interesting but I can’t find much online about them which might be a bad thing .

What did you think of their sound though? The S/510 and at that $3k price you mention is going to be hard to beat.

I think you should look at Rythmik subs if you want good and not as expensive at Rel. But sound is again going to be so dependent on your room and your set up.

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Finally got my sub in… bought a rythmik lv12M.

I have a few stupid questions. For room placement from wall in corner is this an ok placement? Do I need to move my record/hp storage further away from from port?

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Second question:

It didn’t come with a cable so not sure exactly connect it to my amp (anthem STR integrated). Can I run RCA cables from 20 sub L and R into line in L&R? Or do I need special cable(s) to connect LFE?


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In this case, it looks like a normal RCA (L/R) from amplifier to subwoofer will do the trick. Bypass the LFE that would be more appropriate for home-theater application and use the crossover controls on the subwoofer to adjust your bass desires and quantity to your 2 channel system. Congratulations sir.

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If you’re running true surround sound, i.e 5.1 then you want to use the LFE option. For music stick with the two rca, it’s nice you have a L/R option!Any rca cable will work, they do make specific “subwoofer” cables. I’ve used a 75 ohm coax and works great, or try some BJC if you have any on hand.

Now the fun part is dialing in to blend the crossover :smile:

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This is the not so fun part, start with what the manual indicates, then find a friend or someone with patience to help you move the sub around to figure out how it changes in different spots. Surprisingly it can change in a manner of 2-3 feet from where you have it now. Or couple be more. Is this a bottom firing, dual, or side firing? There are some resources on the Rythmic website to guide you initially.

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Ended up going LFE using ARC room correction and then added + 3db of gain. Pretty happy with the results thus far.

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Out of curiosity is that the only location you’ve tried the sub? You’re going to get a good bit of bass enhancement there which can be good. I’ve got my Rels located near the corders as well. The reason I ask it not knowing the magnepans, I’d reaserch how they handle being so close to the sub you may be introducing some low frequency issues.

Not saying that there are issues, I just like to let the main speaker carry as much of the low frequency load they’re able to, and then introduce the sub from there on down.

I just looked at your first picture and they’re a little further away than it looks like from this angle so you may be fine. Just saying to do some legwork and don’t rely solely on the room correction to fix issues you may be introducing by proximity.

It wouldn’t be an issue with other speakers but I just don’t know about the Maggies being so open if there are placement best practices to keep in mind when integrating a sub.

What did you like about the LFE versus the standard L/R inputs?

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I’ve only tried 3 locations in the room but I preferred the front right corner as opposed to the rear and mid locations. Ideally Maggie’s should be in a long narrow room and pulled into the room 3-5 feet but my daughters and their friends would tear them apart alas this is what I’m left with.

I actually like the sub being near the corner boundary as I get some in room bass reinforcement. I don’t want the sub to fully disappear like a traditional audiophile which is what the default ARC tuning does. I bumped it up +3db to get a bit more physical impact.

After a bit more research the LFE input bypasses the rythmik rear plate seetings and puts the integration on ARC for phasing / db slope / etc…. I tried it with L/R in both stereo and mono mode and I was getting some weird issues in certain types of tracks. The Maggie’s are playing full range and rythmik is crossed over around 70-80hz.

The only issue is if I’m not paying attention the bass placement disappears but if I focus on the sound i can tell the sub placement ideally I need to get 2nd sub. Yes the sub is slightly offset behind the speaker but not a ton of room.

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Interesting that the Anthem did some conversion or compensation for a channel not present in 2 channel recordings, obviously using the ARC is ideal for accommodating issues. Main reason one can get a good sounding HT with the use of a good quality room correction software like Dirac or ARC.

Takes a lot of the manual labor/frustration out of the equation too!

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