Hopefully, and hopefully that also comes with better se performance like the bf2
I could see that being successful yes
I just don’t see how the more is less is appealing to at all, it’s not cheaper than the apparently better sounding new model, it’s also not that much more to get an og either which also apparently sounds better. It’s likely not going to measure good enough for people to buy it purely out of specs for the money, and it’s likely not going to interest someone who values actual sq given what they said. I get the idea to appeal to multiple markets at once like they do with the heresy vs 3+ or whatnot, but this just feels like it’s not trying to appeal to anyone
In the cheap stuff, the measureheads have a point, it all sounds “more or less” the same.
Maybe this is proof that a good measuring device is no guarantee for good sound quality.
Now, it will need to measure REALLY well for this… let’s see, we’ll be here to enjoy the show
I think it’s more subtle than that.
By producing a version with good measurements, they take away the “it doesn’t measure well because the engineering is bad” argument, I’m pretty sure that’s what the Heresy was about as well.
Even people buying at that level will often still look at ASR for the quick take.
As I said, I’m kind of sad they feel it’s necessary.
Just why even bother though, it will get shit on by that community either way even if it does measure reasonably well (aka something like “measures well but you can get insert whatever 100 buck dac here that will “outperform” it”), it will not get a recommendation no matter how they spin it. The people who would even consider spending that much on a dac wouldn’t likely take asr seriously anyways so I don’t see how it’s beneficial to even attempt to cater to that audience
After ASR shit all over the First Watt and ACA amps, Nelson’s comment was “as long as people know that I can design a measurebator amp if I wanted to, I don’t care what they say.”
The ASR pleaser products out of Schiit are disappointing on one hand. On the other, why not give people what they want? It’s how business works. But yeah the MIL makes zero sense at its price point. Although, Jason said it’s his favorite version to listen to so maybe that’s why it got built
In the near future I was planning on purchasing the Bitfrost 2 and the G111. However, after doing some further research I found an issue putting it into my current system. I want to be able to adjust the BF2 volume as I want to be able to control the volume of my powered speakers at my desk. My understanding is that I would need a pre-amp. I originally was thinking of simply picking up the Sys. However, my speakers are balanced and I want to run the dac balanced into my XLR Switcher box so I can simply switch between my headphone amplifier and my powered speakers. If I am correct I would need a balanced preamplifier to be able to adjust the volume of the BF 2. I can’t seem to find an affordable solution to simply be able to adjust the volume of my dac, so I can easily switch between my powered speakers and my headphone amplifier. Any help in understanding what options are out there will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again for helping me over come this obstacle.
You have basically three options.
Use digital volume which isn’t ideal, but is really not as bad as it is often portrayed, and can actually better than a bad pot.
Use a SE passive pre like the Schiit Sys
Pay a lot more for a balanced pre.
The cheapest balanced passive pre’s I’ve seen are on Ebay.
I guess my questions is how would it work with the Sys? Would I simply switch to the RCA/SE mode make the sound adjustment and then switch to the balanced mode? Would that adjust the volume of the dac and keep it if I change modes?
I apologize I have not had much experience using pre-amps.
@Polygonhell and @MON I contacted Schiit and asked them about a balanced option for a pre-amp. They said the best balanced option would be to use the Magnius. Do you think that this would work to use as a preamp to the Bitfrost 2 and then run xlr into the G111? Do you think it would colour the sound at all? I do have an xlr splitter that I would run the signal into and then take the signal from the splitter and put it into the G111.
Interesting. It is on the Canadian amazon for $111. Just don’t want to get a preamp that will degregate the sound too much. Looking at all potential options.
Yes, I’d rather go passive here in this case. That palmer is nice, and if you can spend a bit more I’d look for a goldpoint or axiom passive pre but the palmer is more than good enough for the setup you are going to be running
So I’d split the xlr out of the bf2, one goes directly to the g111 and the other directly to the splitter
I found this on ebay. I am a bit confused. Not sure by the pictures if this is a balanced version they are selling. I may need to ask the seller. However, I thought I would post it here first to ask you guys about it. To make sure I ask the correct questions with the correct vocabulary.
This Palmer is available on the Canadian Amazon. However, some of the reviews say that there are channel imbalances. Is this something that I should be concerned about? Would it be more beneficial to go with the Goldpoint passive pre?
