Riviera thread, AIC / AFC / APL / AFM / Levante

Yes

They worked for me without issue. They had full metal on all of them, unscrew one and check

I’d just give it time to both burn in and warm up. It could also be something upstream as well

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Those Brimars are some heavy duty tubes. Enjoy them!

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sounds good. I figured I wouldnt worry about it unless its still there in a week. its like it has the texture and liveliness in the bass but its missing out on heft even just compared to the LC, much the less 13R. I assumed this was a burn in thing anyways. I did try it durextoy out of the wall vs the high power outputs of my conditioner but the change was minimal at nest tbh. Ill just give it some time.

This is what mine look like



That ring is realy nice plastic and doesnt feel removable at all tbh.

But there’s metal on the actual post and the other side right? That’s what matters, the posts did have plastic on them, the amp side does not and that’s where it contacts. Those look like the same I had, you shouldn’t have issues

I thiught the amp side has plastic too but maybe im wrong. Ill check when my botrowed adaptor arrives on monday

There wouldn’t be much point in having a screw fitting at all of both sides were plastic.

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I like the Brimar CV4003 when I’m looking for a warm, enveloping sound that still has a sweet treble - I much preferred it over a Mullard ecc82/12au7, which was a little too rolled off in the treble for me.

If you find the CV4003 to be too warm for your taste, the Brimar CV4034 and F6067T are a little more neutral. I use the 1950’s versions of those tubes in both my Nautilus and Pendant. They’re pricy but beautiful sounding.

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@Draaly how is it so far?

I got it on thursday and immediately left on a trip so ive only got like 12 hours on it so far :joy:

Will be back on thursday and get some mroe time. Also got an ahb2 and a speaker adapter cable in from a friend to see what all the hype is about whuch should be interesting.

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Look forward to your impressions of the AHB2 paired with the Susvaras.

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I am quite curious about this as well. Its not very loved here but the AHB2 get so much damn love for sus basicaly everywhere else im excited to finaly try it. I plan to hook it up tomorrow

In other news, I will also be throwing the brimar CV4003 in the riviera tomorrow.

That is exactly what I thought when I unboxed it. Upon closer inspection the surround of the tap is covered but the flat part is indeed bare. TBH i just haven’t ever seen covers like this on binding posts before so I was caught off guard.

Also, the difference between speaker taps vs HP out is quite large tbh. Better dynamics (sharper leading edge to the transients), separation, and wider stage overall. I was finding that the riviera seemed to like being at higher volume levels than i usualy listen at to get the real bass control I was looking for but off of the speaker taps that seems to be a non-issue

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It is, it’s somewhat solely likely that due to a resistor on the headphone out from what I know, if that would be removed it would be same as speaker taps, would really be nice if they offered a model without that resistor there (could be more than that, but iirc that’s really the big difference between the taps and the front headphone jack)

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This is my understanding as well. Makes it even wierder as well since a lot of amps dont use resistors specificaly cause they hurt sonic performance, but I think its that he probabaly doesnt want to chance full bore power out of the front jack. is a shame though given (from what I understand) it would be super doable to just have a “no resistor inline” output that uses the exact same tap anyways.

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So ive returned the spring 3 and now have the tt2 in house to play with. Tt2 is just an absalute nogo with the aic. More detail ajd better seperatiom than yggy obviously but its thin, sharp, and has flat as hell texture (like the texture is there but its missing body). Tt2 as. Dac is wholisticaly better than yggy but just a no go with aic anyways imo. Maybe if i had super warm tubes but idk man. Has me kinda worried about dave since ive alrwady commited to buying one local…

Also, tt2 as a dac is wholisticaly just way worse than spring 3 KTE. Tbh i know they arent super well loved here but a spring 3 KTE minus pre seema damn competetive given the oerfoemance i got past couple weeks

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They’re easy to move if you don’t overpay.
They also have greatly improved body when used with a better source, I really liked mine with the NS1. But it grew on me before that.

Having said that you seem to like more “warmth” in the mid range than is my preference.

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Yes really not great pairing lol

Don’t know if I’d agree with the spring having better technical ability but it def will come down to preference and pairing

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Yah. I got offered a real good trade so im not too worried about it tbh. Plus ive used dave mkre than tt2 at this point and while it wasnt my favorite for certain aspects it didnt have the issues that are getting me with tt2 right now.

Tbh, while spring 3 was softer slightly i found basicaly all of the technicalities (stage placement, seperation, detail, texture, etc) at a higher level than tt2 though aic, ahb2, and LC (not even just pairing dependant)

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Interesting, thought the may was trading blows with the tt2 so I’m surprised the 3 yields that result, although not heard the 3 so can’t really say. Although in that case I would favor the may over the tt2 in most aspects tbh

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ok, so outside of timbre, I don’t think the spring 3 is a large step up in any given area (maybe half a tier at best) but I think the fact that it is the 1/4 to 1/2 tier up in just so so many areas (and the fact that it basically only looses in leading edge sharpness of transients and even that isnt by a lot) makes it a clearly better wholistic experience. That said, I have only been able to test the TT2 so far on USB (through an intona isolator) and over BNC (out of my SU-2 KTE) but I think spending too much on the front end here stops really making it a fair comparison since I thought spring 3 basically sounded the same regardless of input and used it predominantly just on USB directly out of the computer.

Ultimately, I think the TT2 just isnt realy worth it as a stand alone dac given the price. As an AOI unit the value and use proposition is obviously quite different though (though I would be currious how stuff like he ferrum erco and other newer smaller options stack up tbh)

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Back to the AIC, does anyone notice a glacial warm up time? I feel like im hearing some distinct changes all the way up to like 2 hours in with the Brimar CV4003 tbh.