Focal headphone thread, Radiance / Celestee / Clear / Stellia / Utopia

Do not bend the headband!

Please don’t risk it, if i recall correctly it’s mostly plastic construction on the inside and it will snap if you put too much force on it and focal will not cover that sort of damage under warranty. Realistically you could probably flex it a tiny bit safely but I would not take that chance personally.

Alternatively what you can try is adding a headband cover/cushion to see if it adjusts how the headphone sits on your head and thereby where the pads are pressuring your jawline.

I recommend one of these covers from beautiful audio

https://www.beautifulaudio.biz/headband-for-focal

Goodluck

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I have the same issue with the Clear OG right now. I noticed that the clamp is not linear with the headband, the farther you extend the cups, the harder they push on my jaw. Try using a *headband cover so you can extend the cups, and see if that alleviates the pressure on your sides and move them below your ear and see if that makes it more comfortable.

Unrelated, but I have longer hair right now. With my previous Utopia and Clear OG, I didn’t have this issue. It’s only happening with my relatively new Clear OG (about 4 months old).

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Added * headband cover

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So guys, i have the Utopia OG for a few days now and i have decided i freaking love it! So i would like to ask for some amp advice.

I currently have the v281 LE and the Quicksilver, and the Utopia is to my ears MUCH nicer on the Quicksilver. I have found this article @M0N wrote about it, and his impressions for the Utopia were:

“So this is actually pretty decent, if I had to pick a headphone amp for a utopia around 1k this would def be in the running, but this headphone can just offer you more on a higher tier amp and I wouldn’t buy a utopia to run on a 1k amp in the first place (honestly same for all these phones here). To be clear, this is an excellent pairing, I just think it’s worthwhile to save and take a step into the next tier of amps to better take advantage of this headphone. But if this is the highest you plan to go amp wise, it’s an amazing pairing for the price with this headphone”

With that in mind, i would like to find out which amp would that “higher tier amp” be, knowing its not always about price but also synergy.

Also, do you guys have any idea on the percentage the Quicksilver can make the Utopia OG deliver? What am i hearing here? 80% of what it can do? 90%?

The two things which impressed me the most is with the Quicksilver + Utopia pairing were:

  • Imaging (and the way sometimes i hear some backing vocal coming closer to me);
  • The visceral bass impact;

I am curious about how much of those other amps can improve, and what else is there that i am not experiencing.

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There is a list of pairings M0N recommended a long time ago. There is another thread where he compares the Utopia to other TOTL headphones with chain recommendations as well, but I couldn’t find it though.

M0N recommendations:

OG Focal Utopia:

Can really scale surprisingly well, and consistently rewarding.

Maxing out options: Max I’d consider going for to push these headphones to close their limits within some semblance of value.
Digital source: Sonore Signature Rendu SE optical Tier II OR Antipodes S30 + S20 + S60
DAC: Lampizator Pacific OR Totaldac d1-triunity >OR> Rockna Wavedream Signature
Amp: Angstrom Stella SHA20 MK2 OR Viva Egoista 845 OR Riviera AIC-10 >OR= Eddie Current Studio T >OR= Mass Kobo 394 II
HP Cable: Danacable Lazuli Nirvana >OR> Ultra
Digital Cable: FTA Sinope USB OR Black Cat TRON Reference
Interconnects: Audience FrontRow/SX RCA >OR= Cardas Clear Beyond RCA >OR= Snake River Signature RCA/XLR
Power: Triode Wire Labs Obsession

Higher tier options: A great place to be to really take advantage of most of what the headphones have to offer.
Digital source: Sonore opticalRendu + Plixir Elite BDC >OR= Mutec MC3+ USB
DAC: Totaldac d1-unity >OR> Mojo Mystique EVO B4B >OR= Lampizator Baltic 3/4 OR Rockna Wavedream OR SW1X DAC II Special
Amp: LTA MZ3 OR DNA Stratus >OR= Eddie Current Studio B
HP Cable: Danacable Lazuli Ultra >OR= Reference Plus
Digital Cable: Audience FrontRow USB >OR= Snake River Boomslang >OR= Triode Wire Labs Passion USB
Interconnects: Cardas Clear RCA >OR> Anticables 6.2 RCA
Power: Shunyata Venom V10 NR

Middleground options: Pretty great, there’s more to be had, but good value and performance meet.
Digital source: Pi2AES + SGC Linear PSU OR Allo USBridge Signature Player + SGC Linear PSU
DAC: Lampizator Amber 3/4 >OR= Exogal Comet Plus OR Crane Song Solaris Quantum
Amp: Pass HPA-1 >OR= ECP DSHA-3F >OR> Bryston BHA-1
HP Cable: Danacable Lazuli Reference Plus >OR> Nordost Heimdall 2
Digital Cable: Triode Wire Labs Passion USB OR Snake River Boomslang
Interconnects: Audience Studio TWO XLR OR Harmonic Technology Armour Link III RCA

Lower tier options: Min I’d consider going for to get these headphones going but there’s a lot more they can do, but still good.
Digital source: Allo USBridge Signature Player + SGC Linear PSU
DAC: Chord Qutest >OR= OG Schiit Bifrost 2 (potentially Soekris DAC2541)
Amp: Quicksilver Headphone Amp OR LTA MZ2 + LPS >OR> Rupert Neve RNHP
HP Cable: Cardas Clear OR Nordost Heimdall 2 >OR> Norne Draug 3/Drausk 2
Digital Cable: Mad Scientist Black Magic USB
Interconnects: Anticables 5.2 RCA OR Analysis Plus Copper Oval-In RCA/XLR

link:

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Thanks guys, somehow i missed that on my search.

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Buy @bmn1251’s MZ3, amazing synergy with Utopia and the pairing performs even better than their cost together would suggest. Upgrade the tubes and and you’re in end game Utopia territory

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EC Studio B or an LTA are amazing pairings that sound more than just a tier higher but arent astronomically priced. Those and a danacable and youre set.

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My vote would be DNA stratus. V3 or V4 would do for me.

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I forgot about the DNA amps, they are great contenders as well.

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Sold it on US audiomart

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Okay story time everyone.

I’ve been going through a bit of an issue with my OG Utopias over the last month and I finally was able to get it resolved today.

About a month ago around the time I got my LTA Z10, when I decided to test the headphone output on the amp I pulled my Utopias out for probably the first time in a few months, I’ve been using speakers more and more for my everyday listening needs so it had been a while. When I put the headphones on my head i realized that something was off, the headphone felt weirdly oily especially around the outer cups. I just kinda shrugged it off and thought, oh I probably should clean and wipe them down soon. A few songs later I ended up adjusting the fitment a bit and this time when I touched the cups it felt sticky and it was clearly all over my fingers at this point. I was like wtf is going on and started inspecting them.

As a lot of you have probably already guessed, yes I got hit with the infamous pad melting defect that plagued some of the earliest model utopias and pads. My utopia is a early model from Nov. 2016 and the pads as far as I can tell are also original from when I bought the headphones secondhand back in 2022. It’s not really an issue with the headphones themselves, but to my understanding actually a problem with the early run of the utopia pads where the plastic piece that connects the pads to the headphone housing will have a chemical reaction and just straight up start melting into a chemical goop… :scream:

So yeah when I took off my pads to inspect the source of the stickiness, what I found was a massacre lol the plastic piece had melted all over the inside of the housing and in all the nooks and crannies around the driver and horrifying close to the driver itself. Luckily it did not look like a lot if any had actually came in contact with the drivers. Its also worth noting that this happened simultaneously to both pads.

My first thought was fuck this shit, damn focal QC just screwed me lol my second instinct was okay lets try to clean this up and assess the damage. Well I have to say that cleaning this mess up was nigh impossible, the goop had penetrated so far in the gaps/cracks that it would be impossible to get it all without disassembling the housing, which obviously I was not down to do. Not to mention that this stuff was sticky like a high quality glue and was not lifting off the plastic very easily either.

At this point I pretty much had come to terms with my headphone being trashed, But I decided to take a slim chance at contacting focal naim america and seeing if anything could be done. Now i have heard so many terrible things about focal after market support over the years ranging from unwillingness to answer simple questions to months long wait times to just being totally unresponsive. I didn’t really have much faith that anything was going to come out of this especially considering the headphone was purchased in 2016 and way past warranty and I wasn’t the original owner either.

Well I’m happy to report that my experience with Focal Naim America was flawless from start to finish. I emailed them and received a response less than an hour later, the rep I talked to listened to my problem and offered several suggestions on how to handle the situation and ultimately ended up sending the headphone in to be diagnosed and worked on by one of their technicians, I had the label to send it off the same day I emailed them and it was off in the post the next morning. Less than three weeks later the headphone was already on the way back to me and today it arrived.

To my utter surprise Focal honored the defect being on them and did a full service on my headphone with deep clean and even replaced the pads with brand new ones at no cost to me whatsoever. The report I received from the technician stated no problems with the drivers too.

So now I’m sitting here jamming out for the first time in a long while on my Utopia, everything is right in my world, sometimes things just work out :blush:

Also Utopia on the LTA Z10 is a technical beast, my eddie current always sounded good with them but the microZOTL definitely has something that synergizes so well with this headphone.

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The first utopia i had did this bad as well. I thought maybe the other guy had oily or highly gelled hair, but once you look into it its just tar.

I think the foamy padding and glue react and it goops. If you ever had that velvet feel rubber on a mouse or controller and cleaned it with rubbing alcohol itll start tarring out too.

It was a bitch but i got mine mostly clean, lots of rubbing alcohol and careful razor blading. I sold that pair and bought @karangovil (wherever he is now!) OG which didnt have the issue. Its been a bit and you can see the glue, but i should check again soon to make sure its not goop city.

If mine are starting to go maybe ill reach out and see if i can get a replacement set of pads.

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Well that’s excellent! It’s about the best outcome possible, short of them replacing those with a pair of U2022 at no charge! :rofl:

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Honestly I would have wanted to avoid the replacement if possible since I would be too scared that the sound would be different from these OG drivers… so this really was the best possible outcome

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Have there been any reports of this happening with the 2022 model? I’ve noticed that oily feel around the cable connections on mine, and this is what I saw when I pulled one of the pads off.

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Thats it! Thats the tar goop!

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Guess I’ll be contacting support as well. :weary:

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Oh that’s a bummer, I hope your experience with support will be as good as mine was.

It’s worth noting that it doesn’t have anything to do with the headphone itself. Its the plastic piece on the pads that melts. I could have sworn that I read somewhere (probably head-fi) that they fixed this problem by using a different kind of plastic that doesnt react but i can’t find the post now.

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Offering not helpful observations.
There has to be something environmental involved as well, I replaced the pads on my 2019 Utopia last year, and despite them probably being the original pads, I didn’t have the goop.
On the plus side the new pads made a bigger difference than I was expecting.

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