Oh lol. You know I have had gear that I keep for a long amount of time right? Usually get rid of gear if I don’t like it or because I can’t justify owning such expensive items. Specially with this economy lol
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Sure man. I fully understand, most of the people in the hobby do exactly the same thing. I was just kidding considering your recent ins and outs. Cause I felt like you did enjoy some of them first few days but seen them for sale the next one. Happened to all of us probably at some point. 
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That’s fair, there’s some nasty habits that can be developed easily if not careful. I had tons of those habits, but thankfully after taking a small break from it I was able to correct those habits recently. The Beyerdynamic sale for example is not something I consider part of those bad habits, I did not like that headphone. Would make no sense to keep it anymore if I’m not going to listen to it lol.
Just ear training and recognizing what you really do and don’t like personally.
Good for you.
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Thanks, yeah dude besides recognizing what you like and don’t like to I just felt that most of my gear wasn’t worth it if I was only going to own it for a short amount of time. And what caused me to own it for a short amount of time was always stretching my budget a bit because I bought something so expensive in too short amount of time.
I have been unable to buy my big dac upgrade yet or even other cool things I have in mind since I started being more careful/mindful with my money. It’s more or less boring sometimes lol because having new toys is always fun but it’s working out for the best. I believe in maximizing good habits and I just had too many bad habits in audio without stretching my budget I no longer feel compelled to sell something I like.
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…I call dibs if it’s that sweet marble finish
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Can confirm, although I have heard the 650, but they should be pretty close in sound signature.
I had them for some time a couple of months ago when I had the Ares II, the Feliks Echo and the Pathos Aurium in the house, and on an OTL like the Feliks they really shine, like I was genuinely impressed.
With the Pathos they were still good but nothing to write home about, they sounded a bit on the darker side, classis Sennheiser 6xx series veil, but going off of memory I didn’t feel it with the Feliks, instead they opened up and the highs were super nice, the veil was pretty much gone. Also, I felt that they scaled really well, I could see someone comfortably using them with like a 1K OTL amp and 1K dac and I think they would still be pretty competitive with other similarly priced chains.
Honestly these would be the only headphones I’d consider rebuying. Anandas? Too flat. 660S? Just buy a 650. DT880 600Ohm? Too bright.
The only thing stopping me is that I want to invest as much as I can in my 800S chain. They are just too good with the Bakoon.
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So here’s the interesting a new revision 600 for around two weeks or so. I know @j.fopps did too and we shared similar opinions. When comparing the 650 to the new Rev 600 they felt wildly different. Too different to compare sometimes and I was surprised by how people compared them. The 600 was truly reference sounding, no sweetening and they sounded extremely forward with virtually zero bass. But the OG 600 I have are actually feel like they are in between the 650/6xx and the 600 new revisions. It’s still a forward sounding headphone but not as exagerrated as the new revs just by a tad bit. Bass too is still on the lighter side but a tad bit more where it dosent bother me at all, and it’s also more wide sounding by just a tad bit. Feels like all the flaws the new 600 had where just slighrly not as bad on the og 600 while with the 650/6xx they went to a completely different direction making it a fair bit more laid back, wider and with better bass.
Yeah that makes sense bro, I had the 6xx and it really did scale so nicely and sounded lovely. Personally the Verite Closed kind of replaced the 6xx sound for me so I have that instead but I can totally see myself building another chain around the 600. It’s nothing short of amazing.
I get u with the 880 thing lol, although even if it wasn’t too bright the problem is that everything it does I’ve already heard or still have to where it didn’t excite me. Like staging, I’m used to having a cool type of almost 3D stage and the Beyer was very standard. Everything was pretty standard but I think I’m just past that now. Also suuuuuper awesome to hear that about the 800S!!! I know @j.fopps also is basically building his system around it because he loves it so much. Something I gotta try in the future for sure.
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That’s interesting. I have always seen the 600 and 650 being always compared between each other with the latter being the warmer one, and have always been described as “similar”. Guess I assumed wrong lol.
On the topic of revisions, the 650 I had was the latest one, the one witout the cool Sennheiser box, only cardboard (which was pretty disappointing).
The previous owner was like on his fourth pair of 650, but because he loves them so much he always ends up buying them again, so he managed to listen to quite a few in those years.
Interestingly, he told me that in his opinion, this revision actually sounded somewhat wider and a bit more neutral compared to the previous one.
Oh yeah absolutely. They are not for everyone but from my experience with different amps (solid state, OTL, hybrid and current drive) I think you can cover a wide range of genres and personal preferences with them.
Although I am probably biased since out of the other similarly priced headphones I only heard the OG Clear and the LCD-X, and only the 800S really stood out to me on what I had at the time: the Micro Black Label, with the Clear coming kinda close but not quite there.
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That’s the thing, that’s why I was confused because it really did seem they described them as similiar. And comparing the 6xx (specifically what I had) to the og 600 I can see why. It’s just comparing it to the new Rev of the 600 feels fairly different.
Rip. Sucks that they did that. I mean it’s still not a cheap headphone lol. Wish it came with the box. Even the 6xx comes with the box but the new 600 and 650 don’t. Like bruh.
Oh man that’s interesting. Really does make sense and I’m all about the revisions now after hearing it first hand. Cool story about the previous owner as evidently he was legit a connesour lol. That reminds me I had heard someone say that the 650 and 6xx sounded different. Would be curious about that too.
In the past it seemed the 800 series had alot of flack to where I don’t think I would have believed you but recently it feels like the entire audio community has done a 180 on those headphones and people whom I share similiar thoughts too also swear by those headphones. I also happen to have an amplifier that is known to work well with them haha so I most definitely will do so and do believe you. Lowkey I wasn’t a fan of the clears and I did have them with more quote on quote proper source gear that people liked them with (RNHP, Bifrost) so I would imagine I might share your opinion once I do get em.
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Duuuuuuude the OG 600 have some bass rumble it actually has some decent extension in the lower end 
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Oh yeah, when I was searching for my next headphones the 800S was like the last one on my list, coming from a 660S I thought at the time “bit too warm for my liking, maybe something a bit more neutral while still having a hint of warmth?”, and I had always read how 800S were sibilant and thin sounding and how they are best fitted for classical music and not metal and bla bla bla…and yet, here I am. With my 800S. listening to techdeath. Having a GREAT time.
The thing is, IMO, what really captures you are the technicalities, just the sheer speed, soundstage and definition of the sound, something the Clear wasn’t really able to do. it wasn’t bad per se, but it didn’t impress me as much as the 800S did. If you can get behind the tuning (which is not that bad even on a SS amp) then IMO those are one hell of a headphone.
The day I tried the Clear and the 800S back to back in the shop, I was torn between the two because the Clear was more “agreeable” in it’s tuning and I told myself “maybe it’s the amp, the Micro Black Label is pretty warm so maybe that’s why I fell that they are borderline bloated?”.
And so I thought “maybe with a more neutral amp these could perform better” and I considered buying them and then upgrading the amp to a more neutral one. But no, at the end of the day the precision and just sheer technical abilities of the 800S made me go “well they aren’t the warmest and could have a better tuning, but I much prefer this technical ability”. I took the gamble, hoping to “fix” later down the line the shortocomings of the tuning. In the end, the gamble did paid off: for me the Bakoon fixes like 95% of the problems I had with the tuning (at least with metal, which is all I care honestly).
Ok now I’ll stop gushing over the 800S, I’m definitely going OT lol.
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I feel like for senns people focus one part of it. The 600s with their mids, and the 800s and their treble.
I found that yes the hd800s could be sibilant but it was easily tamed. Tube swap, or cable, or a different amp solved it. I love the texture and tactility. It has a way of letting you see the layers of depth through the other layers. Its very whimsical. Its weakest point is the bass but when i am at my pc i put in a 3db shelf. It helps this and the headphones handle it extremely well.
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I am curious as to why the 660s are less interesting to people? I’ve noticed that people often leave them out of conversations or explicitly exclude them from conversations about the 600 series?
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Are they the ones that are supposed to be very similar to the Drop 58X?
EDIT: answered my own question, yes.
I think the 300 Ohm is what makes the difference. I have the 58X and although it’s very enjoyable, it doesn’t have the ability to scale and outright slam with a well matched amp like the 600 at least.
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It is 150 ohm. I guess I use it a lot for classical and jazz music so slam has never been an issue for me. I find it particularly good with strings and woodwind instruments.
Interesting @dB_Cooper thanks for the insight.
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The 58X is fantastic in the mids, great timbre with vocalists both male and female and does play with a wide range of amps… horses for courses. the 58X was my first “real” headphone purchase.
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My good friend came over 2 days ago to listen to my BF2/Asgard combo…no eq.
Brought his 58x and was amazed how good it sounded. I felt the same. Another really
decent hp when given the right mix, apparently.
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Yep also this. Depending on the quality of the recording you can really hear how the instruments are layered in the soundscape, and because the soundstage is so big this becomes a standout feature IMO.
From the research I did 3 years ago when I was searching for my first proper pair of headphones, I identified mainly two reasons:
- They were considered overpriced (500 vs 300) in comparison to the 600 or the 650 despite offering an almost equal tier of performance.
- People found them to be either too warm or too close to the 650.
Honestly I can kinda agree with both those points. Granted, I didn’t try the 660S and the 650 on the same chain, but looking back if I tried them both on the Micro Black Label I think I would have enjoyed more the 650.
Another thing I remember thinking to myself was that the 660S had a somewhat wider soundstage than the 650, and maybe having a smidge more detail, all of this even if the 660S was on a “lower tier” setup compared to the 650 (Micro Black Label vs Ares II + Echo), so there’s that.
I think they are great if you want a warmer 650 in terms of tonality but, because both them and the 600 are so competitive at their price point, at 500 euros/dollars they were regarded as a “not so good deal”, and most people said to either buy a 650, a 600 or a 6XX over the 660S even if they were more a bit more detailed.
But, you know, I had the 660S like 2+ years ago, so take all of this with a grain of salt.
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Yeah dude thats exactly the type of things I had heard about as well. It seemed extremely uneppealing! But now as time has passed it just seems like most of those people had bad pairings with it or just subpar source gear for it. So I totally believe you guys and do wish to try it one day.
Oh that’s Def interesting!
@j.fopps has tried most of the sennheiser headphones including the 660s,he might have something to say about it.
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