The cloth you removed was the coarser mesh I was referring to. Sometimes it’s loose and just falls out so it doesn’t matter that you removed it. Looks like Ryan has been removing the other stretchier cloth that comes on the pads from ZMF
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Got it, yeah mine definitively did not had that one. I will compare the sound with and without the cloth i did remove and then decide what to do, thankfully it should be as easy to put back as it was to take it off, it was barely held into place.
And thanks for the Telegram link lots of interesting stuff there! I am now trying the washer mod on the screws to create a gap under the rings.
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Hey guys, just thought I’d share my latest findings with you.
So, some guys on the Telegram group made a good argument that trying the Tungsten on speaker amps would be a good idea, and that the OOR is not really good for them, so i gave it a try. At first i actually told them the OOR had plenty of power and all, that no more power was necessary, but i wanted to hear things for myself.
I must say, i think i’ve experienced the Tungsten’s real sound when i plugged it on my speaker taps, and i am just using a freaking old Onkyo home theater receiver!
Seriously, i now see that the OOR is not at all a good choice of amp for these, the Onkyo does a better job in every single aspect. The top end, staging, bass on the Onkyo are all in a VERY different level compared to the OOR.
Maybe this is why i prefered the Tungstens on the Quicksilver even though it barely has enough power to drive them with no headroom, its not because the Quicksilver are a better pairing for these, but because the OOR is just not a good one.
So yeah, i think every Tungsten owner should give speaker taps a try, it is a real game changer and honestly the sound i am getting out of this combo is something which redefined things for me, i can’t picture myself wanting to listen to my other cans anymore, its just crazy!
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Bro, stop. I’m getting jealous.
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Same, I have a long wait ahead of me still 
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You guys are in for a treat, but do make room for a receiver so you can try them on speaker taps if you can, regardless of the amps you have for headphones.
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Another update, this one is important for OOR owners.
I was not happy at all about how the Tungstens sounded on the OOR comparing to my speaker amp, then someone in the Telegram group suggested i should try the OOR’s bypass mode, and man i am glad i did!
The difference between the OOR and the receiver is now much smaller, the bass sounds actually nicer on the OOR now, while the top end is still a bit nicer on the receiver with a bit more brightness and a slightly bigger stage.
The thing is, now i have to keep going back and forth in order to be able to tell the difference, but when i was using the OOR without its bypass mode it was night and day, the receiver sounded much nicer in every single aspect.
This is absolutely worth the try for anyone powering difficult to drive cans with the OOR, i need to check how this sounds with the HE6 and 1266 now!
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Does any Tungsten owner here have the T60RP Argons as well?
I’m wondering how they sound versus each other.
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