I doubt theyâll do the hifi as well but a bunch of my apps like ASD (Amazing Slow Downer) stopped working with Spotify a few months which really pissed me off because that was my one of my primary reasons to use Spotify. I hope they re-enable some of those APIs so devs of those apps can reintegrate Spotify.
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Iâll be surprised if they ever do lossless. Their tech (the speed of their entire platform) actually relies on lossy transfers.
Watch the series on them on Netflix. Their big breakthrough came when they realized that if a few packets of musical info is dropped here and there, no biggie. Canât do bit perfect that way.
That would explain a lot haha
I mean thats UDP and most of the internet. It makes sense for streaming things, but it shouldnt be relied upon.
Weâre not talking about dropping packets and resending them here. Weâre talking about dropping them and calling it a day.
Yes seems like a false economy to me, unless you can engineer it in such a way that you guarantee to drop, some number of packets. You get certain network wins using TCP/IP, even though it sits on top of UDP.
TCP Packet headers are compressed and UDP ones arenât.
You would definitely hear a dropped network packet FWIW, and that assumes you are sending the stream uncompressed, as soon as you decide you want to send them compressed, you either compress per packet at a tremendous loss of compression, or you have the problem of having to drop everything up to the next compressed block. Because most compression is stateful, and requires you see every byte.
My guess is they are doing something other than the obvious here, or they are just boasting about a bad decision ( which isnât unusual for engineers IME ).
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Yeah not sure exactly what theyâre doing but the way the solution to their âmust be instantâ problem was portrayed, theyâre ok with losing some data along the way.
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Over 8k for an iem feels like a serious piss take tbh. Trailli are damned good, but âimproved bassâ isnât worth 4.5k over a used normal set imo. They have much more glaring issues than that
And yes, I am well aware these will be sold through long before actual launch
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Thatâs some sinister pricing. Is there even portable source gear reaching that price?! I doubt it. 
Ive seen videos of prototypes but not sure about the actual launch.
@NickMimi we going halfsies on this one?
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Wonder if itâs actually a worthwhile step over the regular one, probably not, although Iâm sure most of the units are already spoken for already anyways lol. Wish the trend of a âTiâ version doesnât carry over to iems, itâs barely passable when it comes to daps, but really I donât want a titanium version of iems just for looks especially if the iems werenât designed with a metal shell in the first place
Imo from a purely looks standpoint I like the new special edition they came out with the black and red shell one considering itâs the same colors of the bird itâs named after, and it came out at the same msrp as the current traillii too, although this one claims no sonic improvement whereas the ti claims something
Donât think itâs fair to compare a new price to a used price, but even comparing MSRP to MSRP, itâs still probably not worth it (even if you have a point in that used prices for these will probably hold more value than the stock ones lol)
In terms of just purely crossing the price barrier, if the iem can provide sound worth that amount, I guess itâs fine, but I personally havenât heard an iem that I think is 8k worthy lol. UM with their special editions have already gotten to basically 8k as well
I do think a more aggressive bass response in general would be cool from these, but I agree itâs not the only range it could be improved, although personally I donât think the iem has any glaring issues I can think of, although still things that could be improved upon
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Ay chihuahua, es mucho dinero!
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Yah. I think I have seen them as low as 4.5k new which still seems like a fairly insurmountable gap.
I think they have broken 5 figures, but I also think those are piss takes tbf.
My biggest thing against them was tangibility. I found that they often ended up sounding a bit too light and ethereal. I think the closest thing I can compare the sound to is an underpowered estat. Everything is there, but the images feel kinda translucent, like you can reach out and swipe at them like fog. IMO this kept it back from simply being the the best IEM I have heard and instead put it in the top grouping along side stuff like Mason FS, Jewel (though I didnt like that one), and MAD24.
Agreed. I dont mind it when the Ti is used as a platform for way more stuff (like LP6 Ti) but I find it kinda off putting when companies just swap the case and move on with maybe a slightly different amp chip and thats it. Maybe I would be more ok with the trailli Ti if it was like CIEM only or something for a very legit value add, but idk
Iâve seen them that way with a dealer discount but not advertised that low, but admittedly havenât been following the price that closely. Wonder if they donât sell out immediately if theyâll get any discount, probably not, but not sure
Iâve seen that but yeah I donât really count those, they either inflate the price with material of build like diamonds on the front or something, or use exorbitant cable cost bundles, but most arenât that legit
I could see that, my personal favorite iem is the infin mk2 (with an upgrade cable which I think is important) for that very reason of tangibility but I think really with all the things the traillii does right and as good of an all rounder as it is, I actually wouldnât complain for the price or consider it a crippling aspect. Now that being said at the Ti price I would expect that issue solved lol
Yeah for sure, another good example is the dx300 max ti which furthered component quality so also ok in my book. The lpgt ti was more questionable in value for the ti version, however I still got one anyways because any improvement to my long time favorite dap brand is one Iâll grab lol (and not too unreasonable cost bump)
oh, yah. This is ultimately a fairly minor gripe, but its what I personally found to be the biggest down fall of the iem (especially with just how synergy picky it is) so I would expect it to be solved for a neerly 50% price hike.
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Might have missed this but new m1?
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That is very obviously a 50 cd cd player from 2003
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It is very obviously the case they used from their M21 dac as well lol. I will say form factor wise though I always liked the slim look of the older m1, but if it sounds better doesnât really matter lol.
12 grand vs the old m1âs 9k btw, 15k for platinum upgrades/finish
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