General Speaker Help/Discussion Thread

Maybe the blemishes would have eventually annoyed you

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That’s substantially more than blemishes. The way my mind works, when you’re spending cash at that level a lot of that cash is for the cabinetry. I couldn’t live with that.

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You’re both right but I know you can always send it to Devore for refinishing which isn’t cheap at all but if you think about the price of entry for the O/96 that’s not a bad strategy in my mind. Not that it matters at this point.

The question end of day is what alternatively those $5500 can buy me and would it be a better deal. I am in the market for higher sensitivity speakers that’ll work well with my Enleum amp and having heard the o/baby I think the Devore house sound is great

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I’ve love to hear any of the DeVore high sensitivity line along the way.

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I too am a big fan of the Devore and the O96 were on my radar for a long while. I missed a nice pair at $6k…the only issue with the full sized is that they are work to get just right in your room. They are a really nice speaker though.
I’ve moved on to Philharmonic now, I’m more in desire of the more neutral sound signature nowadays :crazy_face:

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The difference between a speaker sounding good or that same speaker on the same equipment sounding GREAT, can be measured in inches. Hear-in lies the problem though, do you have an extra 12 to 24 inches to spare?

Headphones take the room out of the equation and allow you to listen to your gear when you don’t feel like listening to music…:rofl: :crazy_face: Just Joking… Speakers take soooo much more effort to accommodate BUT also allow you to focus on whatever aspect of performance you have a preference for.

I’ve developed a taste/preference/desire/addiction or whatever you want to call it for getting my speakers to “disappear” and get the fuck out the way of my music. It’s become an obsessive behavior… and as the months go by I find that i have basically memorized my room and each of my individual speaker / chair location preferences :crazy_face: I’ve managed to build a “24inch bubble of performance” around my head that i can now duplicate and repeat on call. It’s a one man zone, no sharing…lol i have so much respect for people who can build a system to play for 2…

Having the space to move the listening chair and or the speakers within what basically amounts to a 24" ring of preferred space allows me to fine tune my system. The best part about this is cost; ZERO, NOTHING, ZILCH, FREE baby FREE. If anyone here is still on the fence about how critical a difference adjusting your seating position and speaker placement can be please set aside a long afternoon and put forth the effort, I cannot recommend doing what you can to find the most favorable sound character in your room. Happy Listening folks :hugs:

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this is a good summary of why I’m excited and curious about speakers and why I’ve never pulled the plug on a serious set. It’s so much easier to get what you need out of headphones even though the drawbacks are clear

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Everything that @NickMimi said… or buy a pair of Ohm Walsh speakers and call it a day. :slight_smile: although there are compromises in those as well.

I’m a 2-ch guy at heart and always will be.

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It’s definitely worth the trouble!
I can’t ever put anything on my head again. The presentation and life-like imaging cannot be replicated with anything else.

Anyways, there are certainly speakers that are much more forgiving with placement than others.

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Most of my listening these days are at night after the kids go to sleep. Open back headphones is as far as I can get with making noise unfortunately.
Speakers serve a very small portion of my listening time so I have very simple bookshelfs and a sub.
I do think that’ll change when the right deal shows up. The Enleum amp is pushing me towards that. But if I sell the amp before getting new speakers that can change everything

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I have an opportunity to try out a pair of Totem Acoustics Sttaf speakers. A guy in the building hasn’t used them in years and his wife wants them out of the house because… she has that power. lol

Anyway, you know when you’re not looking for something and then there it is? The specs on the speaker are everything I’d want as a good counter to my non existent some day will come and they’ll get here Omegas. (speakerless for 6 months now). The Totems are 8 Ohm, easy to drive will work on 20 watts a decent sensitivity of 88 dB. given that I’ll be using them in what is tantamount to mid field listening, volume levels won’t be a problem.

These weren’t the most highly touted Totems, but they’ve got decent reviews and as a “second” set of speakers might suit the bill. I can pick them up for $550 since the going rate is $500 to $600, figured I’d offer him the midpoint. There are some “tweaks” online and the general consensus is that they’re good, not great.

I’m thirsty though. Speakerless for 6 months, damn. I figure at the price I’m picking them up, I can move them along easily if I had to. You notice this is seemingly less a post of me asking for advice but more a post of me trying to convince myself not to get them and you guys doing your part to give me many valid reasons not to.

Same day free shipping which is nice. :slight_smile:

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If I was speakerless I’d buy them or I’d buy something, anything really

… sorry I mean, don’t buy them! The omegas must be there soon … ish

Good luck!

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They fit, and they will let you play with room acoustics and positioning and when tucked in the corner after the Ωmegas arrive they make nice stands for your HP’s :rofl: Dude, you can sell those for $450 in seconds if need be, Think of it as renting a nice pair of speakers for $100 till the others arrive….now that’s a deal

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You guys did a lousy job of talking me out of it. I spoke to my neighbor and I’m picking them up Sunday night to listen to in my system for a while before I decide.

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I have some basic maybe dumb questions and need some clarifications please…

  1. Is there a dac in powered studio monitors like the jbl 305p mkii?

  2. When you add a preamp that is connected to a dac does the monitor bypass its dac (if there is one) and just uses the internal power amp? And is the dac that is connected to this preamp doing anything other than being a source?
    Because when it was connected to a Focusrite interface it sounded kinda harsh sometimes but after moving it controlling with asgard preamp its never harsh and there are more noticeable details and the bass is punchier and tighter. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

  3. What is the signature of jbl 305p mkii? With this setup it reminds me of the nighthawk kind of but bigger, my settings are boundary set to 0db (it goes from -3db then -1.5db default then 0db) and High frequency set to 0db (it goes from -2db then 0db default then +2db).
    It’s my preferred signature out of everything I have.

No, at least not that specific one. But some studio monitors may have built in dacs and dsp

Well, if the unit did have a dac, plugging into it’s analog inputs would bypass it’s dac most of the time (although there will be cases where it doesn’t for some speakers)

I’d just assume that the Asgard sounds better because it’s a better preamp than the focusrite would be, just a higher quality pre

It’s kinda a wonky neutral imo

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To clarify, some speakers have active crossovers, for those to work, they have to digitize an incoming analog signal compute the crossover and then run the results through the internal DACs (plural).

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Stumbled across an article w/ a little trick on speaker positioning. If nothing else it makes for an interesting read and the site has a few blog posts, articles and reviews to read.

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That’s pretty brilliant. When millimeters make a difference, I am so going to use this.

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Someone interested to go to the next level, get a chance to listen to this speakers / or get the kits for your next DIY project:

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This guys are pretty outstanding engineers: S. Linkwitz (linkwitzlab.com) and I’d say, his own setup is more than impressive :wink: My current sound and video setup (linkwitzlab.com)

Even the name of the company itselfs, speaks for itself :wink:

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