I think he basically does have that, I have terrible memory so take it with a grain of salt but pretty sure he’s mentioned having rooms set up for that. although at some point it’s also about having something be more accessible and just ffocusing on a listening room might actually take u away from your gear at times
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I know he does ghetto runs of fiber hung from door sills and shit and according to his own post I’d be afraid to walk under his acoustically treated ceiling. lol
I mean PURPOSE built, like literally from the floor up, with concrete pour and insulated walls and blah blah.
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Idk would have to ask mon. For some reason I could have sworn that he literally did do that. Have a whole studio essentially built but IDK
Man would be the dream having a room specially for audio. Hopefully once my sister takes her bed ill be using that room specifically for audio lol
Nothing else, no mirror, no drawers, NOTHING BUT SPEAKERS AND HEADPHONES. THAT’S THE AMERICAN DREAM RIGHT THERE.
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No, because I want to not find out, it’s likely better, but who knows lol
So it could be done at that budget, but given my experience with people I know, I’ve asked that question before, and they’d had said I’d get more for my money upgrading the speakers after hearing my current room, but past this things would require a custom built room. Wasn’t expecting that, but that was the general consensus from the couple of people who have heard my setup semi recently (people who also have happened to build out rooms for themselves). Also, with the current deals I’m looking at snagging, it would really be more around 50 which might be less than doing a room from scratch, but if I were dropping 100 then I would entertain that idea more
Also, I’m lazy, and it’s a lot more work and time to completely rebuild a room from scratch vs just buying speakers and getting them placed for an upgrade, although it’s also just putting things off more and more lol
No, perhaps subbass texture, but it’s really going to depend on the speaker
I mean I’ve got quite a deal on the Verity, and I doubt the guy who could sell the goebel could beat that
So I now have legit diffusers, but my absorption is still ghetto, so that’s the real problem, but hey it works and sounds good, thought my ghetto absorbers worked just as good as the nice ones for my situation, but it’s absolutely not worth to make your own diffusers, those are just a lot better when premade lol. In recent years I was forced to tone back the ghettoness of my system due to other reasons, so it’s a bit more properly done now (although now having a tv inbetween the speakers is true pain, that will be leaving no matter what if I get new speakers no matter the arguments)
That was the goal, had it designed and everything, but then covid happened, and a lot of other things happened, and now that’s postponed indefinitely. Also sold off the main speakers the room would have been made around, so now I’d have to get it redesigned with the different speakers in mind
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@M0N , Love the direction you are going…Remodeling is a real pain in the ass, especially now…don’t do it. 
Have you considered field coil style speakers? I don’t know enough about them, they are an entire style unto themselves, but i had auditioned some at DejaVu audio in Northern Va and damn, i fell in love.
Both old and new have their own delicious sound, it’s just different yet so wonderful. I know you prefer a speaker that does it all, these are probably NOT it, nevertheless i felt the need to throw the idea back at you in case it was simply never a consideration due to their much more limited nature and older design. So looking forward to hearing about your new adventures.
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I can imagine the pain in the ass already lol
I have not
I don’t know if I’m looking for a speaker that does everything, but I do want something that will at least play nicely with a lot of the modern garbage I listen to outside of the nicer stuff, that would be my main concern, so that would be the test. Also aren’t most field coil stuff horns?
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Yes, you already said no horn style…sorry i was just excited to help spend your money 
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Well you have put them on my radar now, I didn’t even think about those before lol. I’ll make sure to keep a look out if I go to any shows or places where I might be able to demo some
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I’ve heard the wilson stuff can sound pretty forgiving but maybe you’ve already thought of that…
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I was thinking wilson, I’ve heard them many times, they would pair reasonably well with my source, but honestly there hasn’t really been a moment where wilsons have grabbed me like other speakers. I absolutely respect them, but also they just don’t call to me. Same with the focal speakers, although the utopias could be worth a look. I was actually thinking of potentially going magico but wouldn’t have good synergy there
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I always get the perception that focals aren’t forgiving for the most part. I probably get that idea b/c of their hp line. lol
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They aren’t forgiving but I don’t really think I’d have any issues with that since with the right pairing they never felt raw enough to be an issue. I just don’t know if focals are also generally the sound I’m going for, but also amazing speakers at this price point. Also, most speakers at this range really aren’t forgiving in the grand scheme of things lol
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So I was talking to someone with experience with the Verity speakers, and he sent me a manual, and actual quote from this manual:
“Room Treatment: The LOHENGRIN II gives its best performance in an average-furnished domestic listening room. It requires a minimum of room treatment. Before investing in room treatment we strongly recommend you to take the time to listen and get familiar with your speakers. The LOHENGRIN II has proven to be a standalone loudspeaker that rarely needs to be acoustically corrected. A good room placement is usually the most effective approach”
So they really don’t want you to treat the room that much, it also states that a more lively room plays nicer with the speakers than an overly treated one (but they do give specific measurements and exact ish room treatment suggestions for some things). Also turns out the coherency issues I was hearing at the show may have been due to sitting too close to the speakers since you should apparently be at least 10 ft away from them, and they should be 6 ft ish from the wall from the back of the speaker as well
I really think I might just go with these, I can get someone to deliver them within a few days which is tempting (weather permitting at least). Seems like my biggest gripe with them was just due to the room size not permitting proper driver integration. Most other speakers I’m looking at suggest you have a more specific room treatment setup, but these don’t, that really might be the tipping point
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How can anyone in their right mind get a showroom that’s not optimal placed for speakers at that level?
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Because space is limited and rooms or booths aren’t really designed to accommodate some types of speakers, I’ve been told all the sob stories and whatnot from mfg who’s room just sounded like ass and nothing could save it. And it’s true, some demo rooms from the same mfg will be amazing at some shows, and ass at others, all depends on where they hold the venue and what they end up getting. This is a common problem for all mfg demoing, and it shows once you visit a few different shows and hear how bad (or good) rooms they get each time. You can only do so much, but that’s another reason why listening to speakers at shows is so incredibly inconstant, because they are almost always operating in less than idea conditions. From what I know this also affects smaller lesser known or more new companies a bit more since they don’t get first pickings for their needs vs more established and higher budget speaker giants, but again the problem extends to everyone from what I know
Generally in the past when I would go to shows with more people I knew, if we heard an exceptionally bad room, we’d note it down, and then make sure to hit the same mfg’s room at the next show if possible and see if anything changed. The mass majority of the time, it did, and sometimes it was a ton better, sometimes not. Was helpful to actually judge if the system was poor or it was the room destroying performance
It’s like at canjam demoing open back headphones on a showroom floor, you really aren’t in an ideal environment. But it’s just something mostly everyone there has to work with regardless if it’s actually giving you a proper experience or not, it’s just multiplied issues with speakers. But better to get your company out there one way or another at a show than not I guess.
Another problem is also powering all the equipment, you already know the physical room limitations and problems, but there’s also large electrical ones too. With all the components and things plugged into that venue, power is dirty and noisy, apparently many mfg make sure to try and correct that one way or another depending on the show
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DOOOO IT
Already did lol, money down, also got some cool cables tossed in as well so curious to check those out. Will be getting them delivered soon enough
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LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO hahaha, should be dope finally getting them, with your source gear and your own room too!
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Those look big and impressive, I’m jealous of the amount of bottom end you will be able to reproduce including your subs. I see they are also efficient speakers…impressive for a 4 way design. Nice and congratulations! 
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Congratulations! Bet they sound as impressive as they look. Do you have to play some
Wagner operas now? 
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