I’ve seen these before (though not in person), they look so cool and have such a steampunk vibe!
They also look like if you have to ask how much, you can’t afford it… 
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the base model is around 16k
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Yeah, they’re very cool looking. The lights change if you’re using battery (Blue) or regeneration (Green) as well.
They are pricey, but I’ve only seen them connected to equally expensive equipment as well.
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The eagle has landed… I repeat, the eagle has landed! Big thanks to @Polygonhell for selling me his NS1 Streamer!!! The final piece of the puzzle for my setup!!! I was very skeptical at 1st because the Pi2AES did a great job already giving my setup a nice blackground and no computer noises. But, with everyone here as a firm believer of upgrading your source, I was pretty open minded on upgrading my Pi2AES to the NS1 streamer because I wanted a little more clarity for my setup. And boy hohoho, did I get what I ask for, in fact I think I got double than what I ask for! First hour, ear drums open, I blink twice because I am flabbergasted of how easy of a difference on clarity it is vs the Pi2AES. Now, I wanted to do a little quick serious test. I use the song Sense - Band-Maid (sorry for my obscure taste), and did a quick 3 test with the Matrix 2, Pi2AES, and the NS1. Matrix 2 was pretty good with some slight computer noises, Pi2AES clarity was a little better and a good black background… then I got to the NS1. I am just speechless… how do describe this clarity? Like jumping from 1080 to 4K? Going from 60 Hz to 144Hz? It’s just insane how different it could sound from just upgrading my streamer. I could really hear the guitar start of the song, like it was sound different right out the gate. And not like sound different like it’s a whole new instrument, but like hearing a YouTube Video vs a FLAC file. Hearing the Bass growl at 1:50. Licking my lips, tasting every guitar licks at 2:00. Even with all the noises in the “Sense” song, I can still hear the supporting guitar and vocals very clearly. This is what I was looking for in my setup! Something to give a good boost in clarity while still retaining that nice Bass growl for my headphones! I can have the best for both worlds with bass and clarity! That was one of my issue with the Onkyo A800, the bass would get too strong that the rest of the music sounded really veil. The NS1 streamer lifted the curtains and I can finally hear that lovely voice! Try testing with my other headphones like the D8K Pro LE, but it didn’t had that same ferocious bass growl like on my Onkyo and guitars explode on the Onkyo A800.
All I want to do today is just listen to my Onkyo A800… thanks again @Polygonhell for giving me this opportunity to open my ears and truly respect good streamers.
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EMM labs are highly praised for their clocks, I’m sure that streamer does a fine job at eliminating noise/jitter.
Glad you’re enjoying it.
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In my fruitless quest to avoid buying a linear psu to upgrade the Pi2aes, and doing some rough math I came across the Lumin U2 mini, which I like the U1 mini removes the switching psu in favor of a proper psu.
With possible dealer discount and or used prices posted for around $2k, would this make it a viable option considering it’s price point new is $2.4k?
https://www.luminmusic.com/lumin-u2-mini.html
Edit: to add a zinger, would a Bricasti M5 which retails the same price be the better play? If so, would appreciate any insight on the why. Thank you
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Why is it inaccessible…? All gated and ticketed area? I’m driving in; I hate public transport passionately lol. Found a nice looking hotel for $93/night to the North.
What’s the most affordable power plant out there? Would it be fine to use splitters out of a PP, for more outlets?
I think the least expensive Powerplant is the 3. I’ve never used one, but a few members here have them. Not sure about daisy-chaining one.
I use an iFi Powerstation that I’m happy with. Rather than a regenerator, it simply filters the power but with Active Noise Canceling.
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Anyone know anything about this thing?
This isn’t something typical PP’s would have? So you think the iFi is a better, more useful option than a PP?
Oh, that iFi is only $750, so I could add it onto a PP, maybe. Or before the PP. 
Or, what’s the cost of a PP that has active noise filtering, too?
I think PS Audio recommends not using any other active noise suppression, so I wouldn’t use the Powerstation with a PowerPlant.
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Why would you want to piggy back the two?
The P3 has a rated max of 300 watts (power consumption watts), which is good for DACs, other sources, and a headphone amp. Once you get into integrated or power amps the P3 is not the right choice but the next size up in the line up.
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Well, to get active noise cancelling with the PP. But apparently this isn’t needed with the PP alone.
300W, interesting… That doesn’t sound like much! Probably need a higher model then. Thanks.
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Something to keep in mind is that power is largely about resolving the issues you personaly have. Powerplants are a full regenerator that take AC, convert it to DC, and then produce a brand new AC signal. This is kinda the “fuck it all” approach. If your main issues are maybe slight DC offset or high frequency interference on the line you can go with a “dumb” filter like a furman/puritan/niagara/etc. Something to keep in mind though is that if you want to plug amps into the conditioner you need something with a “power well” or similar. Furman, Niagara, and PP all have one (with different peak outputs depending on model) while something like a puritain does not and is only suitable for digital sources.
If you just want something cheap for some peace of mind, an older furman is not a bad bet. If you want to step up a bit higher, niagara 3000 and up are also probabaly worth look into along side the power plants (you get a bit more peak power for the money with them, but its not a full regenerator)
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I think I could get away with the 300W PP3, but might have to switch off the speaker amp when using the headphone stuff(duh). That’s a ridiculous price jump, from the 3 to the 15 and 20. . . I could probably just start with a PP3 and see how things go.
So the PP3 does not have a power well? But the 15 and 20 do?
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Im not sure on teh power well for thr 3, but the 12, 15, and 20 for certain do. If you want to save some money you can always go for one gen older than current. For example there is a P10 (equivalent now of the P15, but one gen older tech) local to me for 2k + shipping which shouldnt be a whole lot more than the P3.
FWIW, you should realy consider the niagara 3000 as well in that price range. There are very few comparative reivews out there, but what I can find in forum posts pretty clearly goes the way of the niagara for non-turbo-jank power, and then goes back the way of the PP for 7000 vs P20
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I was looking at it, but didn’t see any Wattage numbers, only amps. Not sure what to compare between that and a PP 3/15/20. It seemed like the Niagara was a different type of product than the PP. 7 outlets vs 8.
I assume the 3000 beats a P10, also?
Used P3 is $1000 these days maybe $1100
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