Berkeley thread, Alpha / Reference AlphaUSB

That’s the part I’m not fully understanding, how does one determine this piece? That it’s going to be better, what makes it better?

Thank you, I think I got it now. I did not realize the Uptone was not a linear PSU despite its naming scheme. However, its calling card is using super capacitors to provide the clean power. Unless I’m misunderstanding the engineering behind this application, the SMPS is simply charging the capacitor bank? Similar to how Chord powers the TT2, using a SMPS to charge its bank of super capacitors which is why it is not recommended to use a linear PSU to charge.

This is all so interesting, and obviously power supplies make a huge difference. I rather understand the why behind some things instead of following blindly so I can best determine its importance among other important changes. Thank you both again!

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Yes and no. The super caps are really just the input energy storage mechanism in the Uptone, holding a clean steady supply that is then linearly regulated down to the final output. The challenge is that super caps are such high capacitance they have very large inrush charging currents. SMPS are typically better at servicing these kind of high spikes in load current. But LPS can do it.

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This is the power supply that’s in the unit, relatively basic.

This is a power supply for a Keces 9v power supply. Just better filtered better regulated and cleaner than whatever Berkley is going to put in there to get to a certain price point.

It gets silly but the Mojo Illuminati LPS I’m using to power my Alpha USB cost me more than the Alpha USB.

An yeah there’s a difference on things like the Sinxer SU-6 USB reclocker where they use super capacitors to power the board and you can charge those capacitors with a basic SMPS without issue as the dirty power is not connected directly.

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Got it, thanks. This is why I would have failed at Engineering school :grimacing:

I definitely see the difference between the two, thank you for taking the time to elaborate a bit more.

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Hey guys, I found a Berkeley Alpha 2 black for sale.

It’s on the high side of the price and doesn’t have the MQA firmware upgrade.
Is it worth it for 2400$?

Thanks to a combination of good advice, peer pressure, and a solid sale price from @Souldriver I now have an FTA Callisto between my oR and Alpha USB :pinched_fingers::pinched_fingers::sunglasses:

Talk about living up to expectations! It’s impacting sound like I would expect a good analog cable to do: smooth, detailed, a little relaxed.

It’s a cable that defies logic. I’m already all in on cables, but this is not what I ever thought a USB cable could do.

It would be interesting to try the Callisto on more entry level gear. Can it have a sonic impact there as well? :thinking:

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I still can’t understand why USB cables have any actual influence on the sound, it varies allot and it doesn’t always come across in every application but for me it has become the one cable I can actually “hear” more often than not. The FTA Callisto model has been a good performer, especially compared to cables costing double and triple its price so i stick to it exclusively for certain use applications. Congratulations on the good acquisition! :muscle:

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The thing that surprised me most was the fact that this is a USB cable going into your DDC, not a cable going into a DAC yet it still had an immediately noticeable effect.

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Odd, you have the same pj pants and thumb as me :thinking:

Glad you are liking it. Even as a reclocker cable with me it made a big difference.

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Just indicates isolation isn’t complete, which it likely never is.
I’m intrigued by where the noise actually originates and what mechanism is used to transfer it. Would give you a much better idea of what to look for in a good DDC.

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Also brings up the point that maybe not all noise is bad. The d1-streamer-mk2 is essily my favorite DDC ive tried despite not having great jitter or phase performance (i wonder if these contribute to the more natural sound but slightly worse image clarity tbh)

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This was something Rob Watts mentioned in his talk, removing noise can result in a softer stage with less definition, and a less bright sound, that some people don’t like. take it with a bucket of salt, But it made me wonder about all those people who prefer the power out of the wall vs through a filter because of “loss of dynamics”.

In the end it doesn’t matter what’s right, just what you prefer.

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completely agree, and as long as you’re able to get to get reproduceable results, it’s just another parameter in the things we can leverage to nudge a chain slightly one way or another.

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Seems there is a Berkeley alpha USB series 2. Looks about the same

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Great to see an update on them. It’s a great product and better still with an improved PS. It may drive the pricing down on the original versions which is always good.

Personally don’t know if I’d justify the expense to upgrade (new purchase) as it’s likely not my bottle neck. Not much detail but 12 years of USB design evolution has to be making a good difference.

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FYI on the Berkeley Alpha USB Series 2.

Anyone with an original Alpha USB can submit it to Berkeley for an upgrade to the Series 2 as it is simply a complete software redesign that enables new handling of the USB protocol, it reportedly is so much more efficient in operation that it uses less processing horsepower and thus generates a considerable amount less noise.

I sent my Alpha USB in and should be getting it back late this week or early next week as it’s being shipped today.

The cost is $265 including shipping back or $295 including shipping box if you don’t have the original shipping box and material.

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Is there a way to tell from the case if you already have the series 2?

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Sweet, mine has that :sunglasses:

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I’m late to the party on this, but that’s really cool! Appreciate the heads up, I might send mine in as well :smiley:

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