Audio Shows / Demos / Festivals / Meetups

I didn’t know where else to post my thoughts on here about the stuff I listened to, so I just decided to put it in a new thread. Feel free to move it if it fits in a better spot. I’ll probably make dedicated threads for some of this stuff for more discussion. It’ll be posted here first in this forum so it’s fresh and hot! Obviously, take into account that these were heard during not ideal situations…

**Ferrum Audio Hypsos/ORR - The power supply unit was cool as heck although with a small learning curve. The amp sounded pretty clean and detailed; it was pretty nice. It got drowned out amidst all the other new stuff but I don’t think this should be overlooked. They also had some nice cables from Atlas. I’m tempted to buy tbh.

Focal Celestee - Yeah this thing has almost no soundstage. Other than that, it sounded pretty good. I think I would take this over the Radiance.

Focal Stellia - Uh, yeah something “wrong” with the mids here. I don’t know what it is. Liked everything else though.

Dunu Falcon Pro - Sounded pretty decent. Couldn’t really complain for $200 but I haven’t heard much in this price range.

**Circimaural RAAL - This was one of the standouts for me. Treble was pretty outstanding. Pretty impressive treble for around 2 grand (not including the RAAL amps they had it with).

64 Audio Duo - Tbh it didn’t really impress me that much. Bass was kind of muddy but the mids and treble were fine. After this I listened to the U12T and it didn’t take me long to hear which one I liked better. Personally, I’d save up for the U12T rather than go for the Duo. Interesting design though.

**64 Audio U12T - Damn I really wanted to buy this but I don’t have a use case for them at the moment. So I’ll hold off but this’ll be the next IEM to buy for me. I liked it a lot.

Westone 80 pro (something)/Etymotic - They were in the same booth and they sounded pretty boring. I wouldn’t buy it personally but if that was the sound they were going for then that’s that.

Empire Ears Odin/EVO (I actually don’t remember the name of the new one) - The Odin had way too much in the upper mids for my taste. Much prefer the new one they came out with as it was less intense and more relaxed. The driver crinkling thing was pretty distracting to me.

Audeze CBRN - Man, I got nothing. It was waay too noisy for me to make any kind of impression, unfortunately. The only things I heard were the crowd and the dang crinkling of the driver any time I broke seal for adjustment. I seriously thought I broke it or something. lol But I know it’s because of how thin the diaphragm is.

Audeze LCD-5 - Man oh man, this was the first time hearing an over-ear open Audeze planar hp. They only gave us around 4-5 min. of play time and the line was always full–as you’d expect. Build was great and lightweight indeed. The hinges that hold the yolks had a very smooth chamfer that made it very nice to hold. As for sound, it sounded pretty warm and slightly thick while still keeping treble extension. Bass, I thought, was pretty slammy and hard-hitting. I know some people were concerned that the small driver would impact “slam” quality but since I’ve no prior experience with Audeze planars, I couldn’t tell you. I preferred the Susvara though overall…by quite a bit. lol

**1st tube amp - I was at the Cardas booth and they were demoing their latest totl hp cable. It was attached to an Elear and woo wa22. They didn’t have any tracks I listen to so I just picked one I knew (ACDC Back In Black). It didn’t take long for me to go, “Ah, now I know what people are talking about.” Yeah, tubes. I like em.

Empyrean Elite - Ahhh, sounds pleasurable. That’s pretty much all I thought. I was more distracted by its build more than anything.

**Zaehl HM1 - Oooh this one was definitely cool. Although it was paired to an RME, I was still impressed by it. Super clean in a good way. I was tempted to just yank it and run away with it! Don’t know how else to describe it other than I really liked it.

ampandsound FORGE - I was looking forward to this one since I’m amp hunting for a Utopia. It sounded nice but I think it was a bit too colored for me. I actually preferred my experience with the woo wa22. It still sounded good though; maybe a tube roll might suit me better. But the good part is that it helped me find out that I wanted something dryer in tube amps. Not the biggest fan of the build, at least when comparing it to some of the woo amps I saw. But not bad by any means.

Dan Clark Stealth - Build on this was pretty exceptional. Very solid and sturdy. I listened to this with the FORGE at first. I did not like it to be honest. I think it’s because I kept hearing the RME in the chain so I got a bit distracted by it. Gave it a second chance at the Dan Clark booth a few hours later and I definitely liked it more. It was attached to a TT2 and M-sclaler. First thing I noticed was that it sounded similar to a MrSpeakers Aeon Closed (OG) but way more technically capable and “less dead.” It is very impressive from a technology standpoint but it wasn’t my cup of tea. Out of the three (Stealth, VC, Stellia), I would take the VC over both, then the Stealth, then the Stellia.

Audeze LCD-XC - I couldn’t listen to it much as it was too fatiguing for me.

Ausounds - This is a company focused on bluetooth hps that use planar tech. I honestly didn’t expect much. Yeah, it sounded wonky and messy. Easily the worst sounding experience of the show to me. I applaud the effort though.

VZR Audio - New company that claims hps for all-use purpose (gaming, music, movies). Didn’t look into it that much since it wasn’t on my radar. But I did listen to it…meh.

**Hifiman Susvara - I haven’t been compelled to get into planars much for various reasons. But the Sus has been my only hope in an attempt to convince me, so I was happy to try it out in Dan Clark’s more quieter booth. It was connected to a GSX MKII. Didn’t pay attention to the DAC. Build is alright, the LCD-5 definitely wins here ergonomically. The Audeze has a more refined build but I can’t argue much as the Sus was pretty comfortable. So, about sound…I want it. It didn’t take long for me to find that out. I couldn’t really complain about it nor could I find any fault that it was simply bad at. I mean it’s not perfect but it just sounds so evenly balanced that I don’t have any more words to describe it. I think I might prefer my Utopia slightly more but, at this point, it just depends on what I want at the moment. Just to be clear, I DO NOT like the Sus out of the GSX MKII. Too bright and light on the impact. But it wasn’t hard to look past that and hear what the Sus was capable of. But yeah, this is definitely up on my wishlist!

GSX MKII - Too bright for me. Even if it were to be paired with a smooth DAC to compensate, the lack of impact is a turn-off for me. Now I know. Not the biggest fan of it.


**standouts from the show

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Great thoughts. What did you like about the Celestee over the Radiance as that was going to be one of my choices.

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It honestly came down to bass tactility for me. I liked the tighter bass of the Celestee over the Radiance which sounded a bit bloated by comparison. I will say though that I listened to the Radiance right after I listened to the Stellia so that probably clouded judgement. The Celestee I heard at a separate time and was connected to a GSX-mini while the Radiance to the Zaehl HM1 (I keep forgetting the name). Radiance had better staging though, while Celestee was shoving it right in my face.

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Wow really? Was it bass control, or maybe bass quantity? The Radiance for me is always controlled and is the opposite of bloat, and i really hate overdone, bloaty, fake bass. Even EQing in a ton of bass DB it hasnt overstepped its boundaries. Maybe because i EQ in a tiny bit of treble too so its not lost?

Maybe a bad chain? Im just surprised as the bass especially is the touted aspect.

Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t go far to say it was bloated. Just in comparison to the Celestee or the Stellia, it wasn’t as tight and clean.

I don’t think it was the chain since the Radiance was plugged into a $10,000 hp amp. lol

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Well youre in a better seat than me since you tried them all and I only have my Radiance. I always felt they gave a great example of the “grip” that others talk about. I wouldnt think it would be better than a Stellia but I am surprised the Celestee sounded tighter.

Maybe I lucked out with it being so wonderful with my Cowon Plenue S, maybe the tiny bit of dsp and eq magic brings it all home, maybe mine isnt fully broken in?

I am just surprised. I was hoping to get you to convert to one since i know you asked me a few questions about it in the past.

Hopefully though, you got to enjoy the soft soft leather they used for the pads.

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Haha they are superbly gorgeous though I’ll give it that.

Yes, thanks for mentioning. Those were some supple pads on par with the Stellia, maybe even softer.

Oh man, I really love my Elegia and was really debating getting an open-box radiance because I think I would like the more bass-centric closed back focal headphone. Might try to go get some more comparisons between Celestee and Radiance before I bite.

Also amazing impressions, definitely makes me even more interested in going to CanJam NY. Trying out that much stuff in 1 day sounds so cool

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I think what it comes down to is staging and bass quantity. Radiance had more, Celestee had less. Radiance had better staging, Celestee did not.

Ngl I had to take a break. I didn’t even plan on listening to so much but I just kept going. I missed a few TOTL IEMs though but I wasn’t too interested in them and my ears started to get sore. lol

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That’s fair tbh. It usually takes a while for a headphone to get comfy on my head, so ~5-10 minutes may realistically not be enough time for me to really get a feel for something.

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Awesome to hear impressions on some of the top-end closed-backs and tube amps! I’m not necessarily in the market for either one, but I’ve been excited for friends here to have thoughts on the Stealth and the Forge.

Any chance you could elaborate a little more on what you like about the VC over the Stealth? (No worries if not, I can’t always describe these things either.)

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Sure! The VC is just more engaging to me. It’s more of a fun sound. The Stealth, I’d say, might be better technically (like w/ separation and retrieval) but I couldn’t do with the “lack” of dynamic liveliness. Dan actually touched upon this in his seminar (about their headphones lacking slam) and showed related measurements and what not. I’m not going to talk about what he said there because I’m not the most technical person, so I don’t want to misinterpret what he said. It was all interesting nonetheless. Also, I’m just not a fan of how the Dan Clark stuff presents sound. It’s not bad by any means but it just doesn’t engage me as much as I would prefer. It’s kind of boring, in other words. I remember when Tyll from Innerfidelity back then describing the OG MrSpeakers Aeon Closed as the A+ student that does everything right and I think that still holds true for the Stealth. If you’ve ever heard a Dan Clark hp expect that similar presentation from the Stealth, just on steroids.

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Seems like that’s just something they can’t overcome in their designs, I’d assume (hope) it’s improved from the aeons but it really seems like this is just one aspect they can’t figure out regardless of how high end they go, thanks for the info there

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Or maybe it’s just how they like to tune their headphones. If other planars can do it, I’d imagine Dan is more than capable. But, well, I don’t know I’m just guessing here. I wish I had recorded the part where he talked about this in his seminar. Should’ve walked up to him and asked if he wanted to join the forum. lol

Btw I’m a failure for not recruiting new members. There was one guy I talked to that seemed like a good candidate but the part about the forum totally slipped my mind!

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Btw, I don’t know if this’ll matter to anybody but the LCD-5 was driven off a Weiss DAC502…

Dang I really wanted Stealth to overcome the macro issues they seem to have. I’ve never heard one but it’s for that reason and I’m pretty sure it’d be a waste of time for me.

I prefer VC to Stellia as well. Planned on seeking out a Stealth but your take and a few others from people I know have me not nearly as interested anymore.

Appreciate you sharing your experiences btw. Nice write up.

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That is very interesting, that’s a real nice dac, but I’ve never heard the headphone out of it

The weird part was that the cable wasn’t attached to the DAC’s hp out. So I have no idea what amp it was driven by. I don’t even know why it would be hidden. There was a Bryston BDP-1 (don’t remember the model but the 2 grand one) right next to it but it wasn’t driving any LCD-5s…

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@Blu not sure where you are relative to NYC but I am on LI. If youre interested you can send me a PM and ill be happy to let you try my Radiance.

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Ah, that’s very kind of you! I actually live in the greater Nashville area, so I was just planning on travelling to NYC specifically for the event :stuck_out_tongue:

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