The 2020 → 2021 (current revision) is a full driver upgrade. Just as a heads up.
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Yep, which measures closer to the harman target, something which I dont precisely dig, thats why I looked for pre rev units, the variances may be fixed with slight eq
Btw I was hours away from buying kcracks 2.2pf but he didnt check his forum inbox, the following day I bought an adorama he6 (I cant power) instead because he didnt answer in 24hours and I had an impulse to spend
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Rofl. Gg @krack
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@krack So thats why I couldnt find u here, I typed kcrack and the user didnt exist LOL
You can contact audeze with the serial and get The fr chart with the test date on it.
It passed his hands, not sure where they are now
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My X’s are three years old now, and I actually slightly prefer them to the 2.2PF’s that I have, and the Clear OG’s. I don’t EQ, not my thing. I have no idea if I got a unicorn pair, but they aren’t rolled off in the bass, and punch almost as hard as the PF’s. Not quite as spacious, but not closed in to me, who knows, I think I got lucky. I love them on the RNHP, but the Liquid Plat with Amperex tubes is my main jam paired with a Bifrost 2. Could be it works synergy wise for me. They’re the last headphone I’d part with…
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This interest me, first person here (or in any forum ive read) to prefer the X
I also dont EQ and have similar chains to you
What kind of music do you listen to, or what are your favorite instruments or types of sounds?
Hard question but, what can the X do that the pf cant? So that you prefer them over
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Nah i prefer the X, but i need EQ for it to be so.
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I listen to everything from Hip-Hop and EDM to Classical and Rock. I’m a reformed basshead, lol, never, but I need body in my sound, and they deliver that very well. I can’t speak to the vastly different experiences that others have had, but I have never really found myself missing anything, even when I screwed around with EQ in Roon, after being told that EQ with the X’s is a must, by like everyone on earth. As far as a preference over the PF’s, it’s because I feel I’m missing just a bit of resolution when I don’t have them on, it’s weird, but I miss them when I’m listening to my other cans. The PF’s do some intangible amazing things, for sure, but not often enough to make me pick them, though I do really love them as well. I actually find my X’s to be less fatiguing to listen to because the frequency range seems more even, at least for me. I do appreciate the Clear’s for what they do as well, and they are amazing cans for classical, but do lend to fatigue me as well, in the highs, but for complicated choral/classical passages, they are quite incredible. Just my take, I feel spoiled by all the great advice people have given me that led me to my humble collection!
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@Adlaer762 hit some good points. There is detail and resolution while still maintaining body. Its not a big stage but it uses the stage well. The bass for me is nice and flat and has a more linear feel. It reaches lower than my radiance but has more rumble than punch. I do also think it has a presentation where i dont struggle to hear things. As in good separation, layering, clarity. I kind of get a drier, but full, and modern sound from it.
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I feel I was remiss in not mentioning vocals, I really love ethereal female vocals, and both Audeze cans do that in a way that moves me quite a lot
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Beautiful descriptions
The LCDX gang came to the rescue lol, the way its been described by several people now I get the sense that I would love both very close
The way audeze does female vocals is very special to me, because its colored and presented in a way I really like
Vocals, body and stage presentation is very important for me, as I prefer forward and the LCD X has a neutralish staging, I really may end up prefering it to pf’s more laidback, liquid presentation. In any case I wont be able to know until I hear them myself, but now I feel I cant go wrong with either
But why did I get an He6 LOL now I have to get a power plant before getting my audeze (maybe)
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Hello,
Besides the drive/power, I had to realise that the inner values of the amplifier also count.
The custom hybrid amplifier I had made makes my Lcd 2C look completely new with its 2 6SN7 tubes.
Completely without Eq.
The Feliks Euforia is similar with a few changes in the inner life of the amplifier.
The cheap Mundorf capacitors from the series were replaced by Vcap TFTF and Odam.
And I have the feeling that after the right tubes were found the Lcd2C became a completely different headphone and also without EQ.
For me it’s hard to say if an SS amplifier could top that.
If so, it will be expensive.
My integrated SS amplifier in the Singxer Sda 2C doesn’t look as good in comparison when the headphones are plugged into one of the two tube amplifiers, although it’s not bad in the Singxer.
The jumps I’ve made in the last six months have been enormous so I thought I had a new headphone just after rebuilding the Feliks Euforia.
In the end, it’s a bit of a tuning thing and especially the inner values of the amplifier.
The last time I experienced something like this was when I listened to the Denon AH D5000 new version in the audio shop on a Mcintosh amplifier and before that on a Music fidality Hpa that went in a completely different direction.
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The lcd2C I find weird in a sense that it really doesnt need much power to be driven, it even sounds decent straight out of a laptop/phone… But its sound completely transforms on every amp I tried
when compared with the hifimen I had at the time (he400i, sundara, ananda) they would scale with more powerfull amps but the sound signature never changed.
As you say I found the lcd2c changes a lot even with a tube roll or component change. Also dont have the 2c anymore but I do have its little brother audeze sine which is supposedly portable but scales incredibly much on a desktop amp
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The 2C’s were my first foray into higher end cans, coming from Meze 99’s! I don’t have the 2C’s anymore either! I’m curious to see what you end going with, and how you like it!
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Hello,
I can’t say that I do.
With the tube, it always depends on the attributes it brings with it.
You often can’t really say where it will go.
And a lot is a matter of taste for some the bass range of a 6080 Mullard may be enough for others it may be too little.
For me it was too little, but I loved the low end.
As I have listened to the Lcd2 for quite a long time as an example before the conversion and after the conversion.
Has it not changed its basic character after the conversion to the Vcaps, the amplifier has rather added something in a positive sense.
So better bass definition and more pronounced, more details and resolution added.
The voice reproduction is a good deal better, but only with the exchange of the TFTF on the 6SN7 socket.
The Odam’s on the other socket have not been in for long, but what I have heard is much more the icing that completes everything in the face.
I’m talking about better localisation and reproduction of the instruments.
Voice a little rounder and finer.
Roughly speaking, the finishing touches. Live recordings are sometimes more breathtaking than before the conversion to Vcaps.
The hybrid amplifier, which I built myself and which is trimmed to 6SN7 tubes, also retains its basic tone. The rest comes more from the tube, which it brings with it.
So if it becomes too thin or the treble range is too strong, for example, then change the tube and then everything is usually good again and more balanced.
With this amplifier in particular, I have to say that I have never heard the bass so well with the Lcd 2 C.
I didn’t expect to be able to listen to hip hop with it.
Both amplifiers have brought the Lcd 2 C a long way forward.
The whole thing makes me very curious about the Lcd 3, although it might be difficult to operate it with the Feliks Euforia.
That’s why I’m glad that the Lcd 2 C only has 70 ohms :-).
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Any recommendations on a balanced cable for an LCD-2pf? I’m wanting to spend $200-$300 on the cable, but if there’s something highly recommended I could stretch it up a bit.
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According to words on the street Norne has pretty good synergy with Audeze to keep that warmer relaxed sound. I’m still waiting on mine though.
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well if you feel the need to return the headphone hit me up 
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I’d like to know the answer to this, and people’s other cable recommends for Audeze headphones. I noticed (accidentally) that the Audeze cable sounded much better than my Hart cable system, so I simply ordered a balanced 4-pin terminated XLR cable from Audeze a while back. I’m trying out a Satin Audio Chimera II right now and enjoying it quite a bit. I’m pretty new to cables myself.
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