PUT SOME RESPECT ON THE ZMF VERITE CLOSED’S NAME!
I just finished another session with it, this time listening to some postmodern classical music, Nujabes (lofi) and it was just so damn lovely! I mean it’s just so filled with soul and it’s so damn well rounded. Love love love it!
Hello,
Am also very curious about the update in how far it will be improved.
And what other information Zach will release.
There are also a lot of new rumours circulating at the moment.
There will definitely be two camps where 50% say brilliant and 50% that the old one is better 
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I have another question for you.
I don’t have the author yet.
Do you listen to it on a tube amp or SS amp?
I listen to mine on a Feliks Euforia and have lent it to a colleague who also has an Euforia and several Zmf headphones.
And we both think that the Auteur needs warm tubes in the tuning.
I noticed this at the beginning and blamed it on the burn in, but now I don’t notice it anymore.
The colleague was also of the opinion that he is somewhat tired of listening over time.
Is it the same for you that you get used to it?
I have stayed with the author pads, but my colleague has changed to Eikon pads more than I have.
He also has more and better tubes than I do, I must say.
And so he also has more possibilities to tune the sound better.
We also agree that women’s voices are ingenious.
and we both like it very much.
Next week he’ll lend me the Aeolus and I’m curious to see how it compares to the Auteur and the Lcd 2 C.
I always listen to my Auteur (or any ZMF I’ve owned) on tube amps. I usually use my Quicksilver Headphone Amp but occasionally use my SW51+. I think my favorite tube rolls on the Quicksilver are on the warmer side of the spectrum.
If by “tired of listening over time” you mean listening fatigue from the treble or something, then no, I don’t ever have that issue. I find the sound wonderfully smooth, and it is easy to have long listening sessions. If you’re asking if I get bored of the sound over time, then I will also say no. I either switch pads, tubes or amp to mix things up.
My favorite pads on my Ash Auteur are the Eikon Suedes. They are a little warmer than the stock Auteur Lambskin pads and are very smooth sounding overall. I don’t really care for the Eikon Lambskin pads. I feel like they make the sound a little too dark and muddy. My second favorite are the Auteur Hybrid pads. They smooth out the highs just a bit versus the stock Auteur Lambskin pads.
I do have a nagging fear that it’s possible I won’t like the sound of the Auteur Classic as much as the OG Auteur even if the technicalities are better on the Classic. I’m hoping there will be some owners out there that will get the chance to compare OG Auteurs to the Classics side by side.
I also have had the same experience with the Quicksilver. Warm and neutral warmish tubes have tended to sound best on the QS for me. Currently I’m mainly using 2 Yugoslavia ei el84 tubes and 2 RFT 12AX7 tubes. I also really enjoy my Soviet 6P14P-EV & Matsushita 12AX7 combo and Sylvania 7189 & RCA 12AX7A combo.
I’m double-replying to you on different forums, but I snagged a picture of the Cocobolo Atrium that one of my friends took. I was too busy gazing at its beauty to remember to take a photo.
Zach is selling a few Cocobolo and also stabilized Atriums at a CanJam discount, so I’m really tempted about getting one tomorrow. If I do it will be the one in the pic.
The highlight of CanJam for me was using an Atrium on a pre-production ZMF Decware amp, fed by an Yggy. I also tried an LTA MZ3 that was on the same table and the Decware had much better control of bass lines, making the MZ3’s bass sound wooly in comparison.
I spent a long time comparing the Atrium to a VC and honestly loved both, and couldn’t pick a favorite. They sounded different - the VC was more detailed, the Atrium was more organic, and even though it was less surgical than the VC, it didn’t sound veiled. I briefly tried the new Auteur and put it back because in comparison to the Atrium, it sounded like it was missing bass. This wasn’t a criticism of the Auteur, it just doesn’t hit my preferences for the kind of music I like.
The Ferrum table also had an Atrium and it sounded really good on the Oor-Hypsos combo, even though they were using a cheap Topping DAC. They were meant to be using a new Ferrum DAC but it didn’t arrive in time and they didn’t want to use anything more high end than the Toppong because they didn’t want to be accused of stacking the cards to make the Ferrum amp sound better than it normally would have. It’s a shame because I’d love to have heard how good a Ferrum would sound with a better DAC.
Ferrum has a 10% CanJam discount so I’m trying to decide whether to leave CanJam tomorrow with a Ferrum or Atrium, or I could be sensible and not spend any money at all, particularly since I’m on an Atrium tour and will be able to try one at home for an extended period.
Cocobolo is very pretty, for the atrium i would think about the stabilized if it is maple. It would help eel out a bit more of the treble where needed.
How did you feel about the Atriums treble and high end presence?
Also, any more info on the decware?
Thanks for the comparisons! Veeery interesting to hear tha you found the Atrium to be more organic 
. NGL one thing I am jealous about with the Atrium is the biocelulose driver. I’ve only heard two headphones that use one, the Nighthawks and the Fostex TH-900 MK2 LE. But it’s just such a organic sounding thing to me. Don’t get me wrong, I think that even though it’s a different driver type the VC did a great job in terms of organicness. Definitely the most organic headphone I’ve ever heard. But can’t help but feel that with a biocelulose driver they could have squeezed out even more! And a more natural bass response too. And don’t give me the whole, but a biocelulose driver wouldn’t have the beryllium driver speed shtick because the fastest, by far the fastest headphone I’ve ever heard is the Fostex TH-900 MK2 Limited pearl white edition. It’s so much faster than anything I’ve heard that I don’t need another second to even think about it.
Either way back on the topic lol, thanks for the comparison! As someone who usually likes more neutral stuff I can say that wether it’s mostly the woo audio amp doing it for me or the VC itself I’m understanding the beauty in the zmf sound. It’s so smooth, very musical and the VC is just right where everything is still sounding amazing on it. I’ll still be getting a more neutral, faster amp for it in the future but the more gooey type of response on the WA8 + the VC sound is so damn awesome so far. It would be nice to try out a Atrium in the future, even though I highly doubt I would personally prefer it over the VC.
Man that is kinda weird. I mean, specially since it’s an expensive amp. You would think they would figure, well anyways no one would use a cheap dac for it and put something better to highlight the amp’s capabilities.
Was this the OG or another variant Yg? I also spy an ECP DSHA Ravenswood, was that being used for the Atrium? Or did you get to try that one at all?
It is nice to see the decware (at least the prototype) isnt too tube quantity crazy. Hopefully it comes in some nice chassis options.
The Verite Closed is a fantastic headphone. The more hours that are being spent on it the better it’s sounding. I find it hard to do anything else while listening to music on it. I keep getting lost in the music.
It has a great mix of speed and naturalness to make it really enjoyable.
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There were 2 Ravenswoods, one of which was upgraded. I got to try one and it sounded bright to me, so I returned to the Decware-Yggy combo. I’ve never heard a Ravenswood before so I don’t know if the brightness was caused by the amp or DAC, which was not an Yggy (can’t remember what make).
There was a whole bank of amps and DACs, and every ZMF was available on every listening station, not just the Atrium. Zach had a new dcs stack, which I didn’t have a chance to try, but hopefully try it this morning.
Would definitely be interested in hearing impressions of that…looks like a very impressive stack.
Zach also mentioned he would have 2 other custom tube amps by this amp builder on Headfi. One of them is a OTL called airmid and another one is a 45 based transformer coupled amp which Zach believes is the best he has heard. If you get a chance give them both a try
Hello,
@ ckhirnigs thanks for your impressions and tips for the pads.
They might really help when listening fatigue comes to the fore.
Speaking of ear fatigue, when I first got mine it bothered me.
I think after about an hour and a half I just had to take it off.
I have to say that at that time it was still in the burn in phase and the auteur changed practically every few hours.
Sometimes more, sometimes less.
And I blamed a lot of things on that.
Funnily enough, it went with time and I must have got used to it.
And towards the end of the burn-in, everything was fine for me.
Shortly afterwards I borrowed it and the colleague had reported something similar.
At first I was tired of listening to it until he got used to it, then it was good.
With the QuickSilver you have made a very good decision, it seems to be on the warmer side than my modified Euforia.
And it probably suits your auteur very well.
With my Euforia amplifier, however, it tends to need warmer tubes in order not to be too neutral and too bright and accommodates listening fatigue somewhat.
At least that’s how it seems to me.
I also have my reservations about the update.
I would at least expect something to be done about the listening fatigue, perhaps more bite in the bass range would be nice.
I think those would also be my 2 personal points of criticism.
I’m curious about the price.
By the way, does anyone know what kind of amp this is?
I only ever hear Air Mountain and can’t find anything about it.
This is the airmid OTL I mentioned in the previous post. Its by a custom amp builder who is no longer building these. The airmountain is his 45 based interstage transformer coupled amp of which only one was made and that was for Zach.
It’s a real sad that it’s no longer available.
It certainly looks interesting and promising.
If it is no longer built, is there possibly a layout to rebuild it?
Interesting. Was this the amorphous core transformer upgrade or something totally different? Maybe that brightness will help the smoothed top of the atroum.
Ill look forward to your impressions if you do grab that cocobolo
The ECP stuff is brighter cleaner leaning (in a good way imo) so I’m not surprised it’s like that, it’s not too picky on the dac side of things
That makes me want own to pair it with the Atrium more. It might be a good pair with the x.3 Walnut and it’s rounder leaner shoulders.
Yes, I believe the bright one had the amorphous core transformer. I tried the other one, with a nickel transformer, today and it was less bright.
