Schiit DAC/Source thread, Bifrost / Gungnir / Yggdrasil / Urd

I had a similar experience, until the Tungstens showed up :slight_smile:

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Congrats on getting a set !

From what I’ve seen on threads the Tungstens are one of the harder to drive sets perhaps maybe even surpassing the Susvara.

It could very well be a synergy issue too… You could try experimenting with raising / lowering the voltage on the Hypsos to the OOR I mean it can make a difference - not overly dramatic and it does seem to be more headphone dependent or should I say load dependent. My TH909s reacted more to voltage changes than did the Susvara as an example. If you do make voltage changes - make a change and let it ride for a week or so before making another change. I suggest 1v increments.

Caveat is that though there were changes, I still ended up in the end just going back to defaults. But that’s me and I’d hate to discourage you from trying. I mean thats a feature the Hypsos - being able to adjust the voltages to do some last mile tweaking and if it makes a difference for you that could be a big win.

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Has anyone here tried the schit lokius?

I dont really EQ but if for 300 I get to play with 6 very well chosen frequencies, just to trip around, and I love knob eqs.

The question finally comes down to signal degradation and value proposition

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Value is inarguable imo, you can’t beat that. As for sound, I don’t own one, but some folks I trust on the headphones.com forum have it and report very good results.

I think if you (or I) had a multi $K setup then no, I’d skip it or possibly get the Loki Max if I wanted to do hardware EQ. But for $300 it’s pretty hard to go wrong if you want to play with an old skool hardware based non-parametric equalizer.

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Exactly, the tech is too good for the price

Yes I do habe the multi K setup and this is literally a toy to fidget in the desk, but I wonder if its like a keeper or just a gimmick ;(

IT DOES LOOK FUN AF FOR MY ADHD

I dont like the design or the features of the loki max, I can make a very nice PEQ and I prefer not to.

Its mostly the lokius knobs and its a good design, it doesnt loom massively system degrading even at several $K stuff but its not for quality sound use.

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My Schiit GS2 arrived today!

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Impact during shipping. Should be repairable easy enough but it does suck.

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Hello all,

Yggy users, do any of you have experience with other DACs that provide the same kind of heft as the Yggy? My second replacement Yggy + GS2 wasn’t working either. I requested a refund, but I could still ask for a third replacement (they promise to test it and make sure it works) or I could go with a used Yggy. I remembered how the Yggy + GS2 + v222 + HD800s delivered such a hefty, engaging sound with the HD800s.

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Mojo Mystiques are probably your next best bet for a dac with umph.

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A Mystique V3 would probably be at the level of the Yggy, any of the Evo line or the X would be a step or two up and give you similar fun type of slam but more refined.

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I upgraded from an Yggy to a Mystique X SE and it gave me everything I liked about the Yggy but more of it.

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Thanks for all the suggestions! I looked over them, but I want to keep it under $2k. I’m even thinking about buying an old BF2 OG in the meantime.

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A Pontus II may be a good choice as well and those can be had for around $1100 easily. You want the 12th upgrade if not a 12th version, but they’re going to be harder to find at that price.

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Hey guys, a friend of mine is selling his Benchmark DAC3 HGC, does anyone knows how that compares to a Gumby?

Not sure if it would be considered an upgrade.

No first hand information but what I’ve heard is that they’re good in a reference clean sort of way, but not engaging or fun. That said, a lot of people seem to like the Benchmark line.

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Now that used Gungnir A1 and A2 units can be found for $650–750 (closer to the BF2/64 price range), what are your opinions on the Gungnir, either A1 or A2? How does it compare to the BF2/64?

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I can’t speak to the 64, but I bought and compared Gumby MB A2 to BF2. The Gumby edged it out IMHO. Better imagining, more natural timbre, more detailed, slightly bigger stage, too, if memory serves.

For reference, I was running these DACs through my Kinki THR-1, my amp at the time. I also was comparing the VMV D1se at the same time. Similar performance to the Gumby but timbre not as good.

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I think if you’re going to make the jump, just look for an OG Yiggy, since that’s going to be the best representation of what you’re looking for and the price difference isn’t going to be that big.

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The truth is, I’m trying to keep it reasonable and under 1000. After that, I might try my v222 with the DAC I get and maybe even sell the v550. To be honest, I haven’t been enjoying audio as much as I used to. It could be a synergy issue or something else entirely.

I could be persuaded if I find a Yggy + OG in black or even a non-ā€˜+’ version at a decent price. But I haven’t seen many OG Yggys for sale. A ā€˜+’ version is available for 2300. I bet the Yggy is as great as everyone says, but I believe the price isn’t competitive today. It’s expensive mainly because it’s no longer being made. For that price, I would try to get a WL(3000$) or we have cheaper options like the Pontus 15th (2100 new).

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I’ve not compared Gumby A2 directly with Yggy OG A2, but I did get to hear a Gumby A2 at a meet where the person had it hooked up to his Folkvangr and a MJ1.

I had my BF2 OG at the same meet, and the Gumby outclassed it and sounded really good in his FV/MJ1 setup. FV and Gumby A2 was pretty fantastic, and with MJ1 it was a good combo with the right headphones. MJ1 is definitely an amp for planars, wasn’t great with ZMF dynamics or Focal Clear OG. It wasn’t good synergy, and overpowered them since it had no gain switch.

It’s a bummer you had such a crappy Yggy experience with the various defective units. I’m also maybe a bit surprised you’re thinking of selling on your V550 already…

I don’t recall your headphones off hand, but I do wonder if your DAC synergy is wrong for the V550. This maybe doesn’t help, but I really like my V590 as an amp with my Yggy OG A2. Maybe a Gumby would be a better match for that Vio… :+1:

Good luck with it Alfredo.

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