I guess the build dosent feel as premium but only in comparison to a really premium products like a focal clear or lcd2. Lol. But I Def think it feels fancy af. Just lighter.
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Gotta say I like my Sundara just fine. Have I heard better? Sure, but for the price
(now down to $299 …I paid the $350) it still serves me well. I especially like the
more forward vocals it provides. The dt880/600 does other things well and I’m taking a breather now that I have the BF2 added in. (But that, of course whispers at me, “get me a better headphone.”) LOL
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I think it’s more of a specialist headphone than gets discussed. I find it fairly “analytic” in spirit with a very forward mid presentation. For its class, I think it has good instrument separation, overall resolution, tuning, even timbre. It’s extremely open-sounding, but I feel that people dramatically oversell its soundstage and imaging - both of which I think are average at best and are bettered by most of its other, cheaper “family members” much less other options. I think they are pretty ‘impressive’ first impression cans - but they can be a bit overbearing at times. Clampy too - my other demerit with them is on the comfort perspective. There’s no lateral swivel to those cups and the clamp is high - stretch them over blocks.
I think they are one of the better overall headphones in their price category, but they’re not without fault and some of the ways I hear them get talked about drives me crazy. I could see them as being a touch sparkly for some folks - I think their treble resolution in that price category is pretty damn good.
In regurgitating communities, you hear about build issues constantly - I think Sundara is pretty tanky. They’re the one unique build in the HFM catalog, and they look and feel very solid. I bought B-Stock direct and never had trouble.
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Never been happier than purposely destroying these pads. These guys started breaking apart even though my 4XX’s are my least used pair of headphones I own and I bought them new. Swapped them out with brainwavz microsuede pads cause brainwavz accidentally sent me 2. 1 went in my Nighthawks the other on these 4xx’s and damn did they improve comfort and subbass. Should have been using these pads forever ago. I never fully like my 4xx’s for daily use cause the itchy ass pads were the main reason. I forget how much pads can do for a headphone
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@rice I still have a pair that haven’t been used much since I got the Sundara and others. Will look into the Brainwavz, thanks. Any other sonic
changes, improvements you noticed? Mids clarity?
timbre performance sounded about the same to me.mids maybe got a little worse. I think the original pads I think had better more natural texture with drums and guitar. The treble didn’t change too much the soundstage got flatter less speaker like . Likely due to losing the angle from the original pads. In terms of clarity. It’s about the same but I also want to say maybe a little bit more revealing
I’m very out of practice these days though when discerning differences having to basically kill the original pads to use the rings kinda takes away my ability to do a proper comparison sorry. But I will say the definite big difference is bass performance definitely bringing out that subbass and even a little mid bass more to get more slam and impact when needed. Certainly gave me a reason to use these more. Microsuede pads are just nice to have and are also on sale from the brainwave site so worth a try.
Thanks for that input. I’m more of a mids/timbre guy so maybe not for me.
All I saw in the microsuede is oval. Will have to look again tho.
It is it fits over the headphone a little awkwardly had to work and stretch the pads a bit to get them to work. Only way I ever really fixed the timbre on these are hooking it up to my liquid platinum not gonna lie
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