Dan Clark Audio, Aeon / Ether / Voce / Expanse / Stealth

So… DCA Expanse… :heart_eyes: :money_with_wings: :confounded: :innocent:

any updated thoughts? :slight_smile:

I couldn’t agree more. the comfort and build quality on these keep sucking me in. they are so nice to handle. Easily my favorites to wear. I’ve gone 3+ hours listening with absolutely no comfort issue.

100% agree! these are anything but portable headphones. my 2 cents - this is a huge marketing mistake. Trying these on a DAP or anything portable is a joke.

Very interesting. To my ear these are quite boosted in the low end. I wonder if it’s a burn-in thing? Mine came “lightly used”. I definitely hear the Harman bass shelf, and even the lower-mid boost that Dan talks about.

The burn-in requirements are more pronounced than I’ve heard on other cans before. I got mine “lightly used”, guy said he had 100hrs on them (not sure I believe that). I ran them in for another 100 hours and noticed an improvement in soundstage - slightly wider, but very noticeably deeper.

Given the low impedance (23Ohm) and low sensitivity (87dB), I think these are going to end up being highly signal-chain dependent set of cans. Lots of power and a need for high quality power. I wish I had more DACs / Amps to compare with. I’m running these on my HPA V550, with the Chord Qutest DAC. This seems to be a good pairing, but that’s based on my sample size of one :stuck_out_tongue: But it’s good enough that I know these are going to be keepers for me (selling off others). This chain is also working very well with my Utopia. It’s interesting how very different the load from these cans are, but the V550 handles them both well.

I did a basic cable swap on them this week (stock VIVO cable to WyWire Platinum cable), and the soundstage moved back (like everyone on stage took 1 or 2 steps backwards). with the VIVO wire the first sound in the soundstage that I hear (the sound closest to me) is just in front of my eyes, almost like a closed-back set of cans. With the WyWire cable it moved everything back so the soundstage feels set out in space infront of me. I also got a better sense of separation within the sound stage (slightly wider). But with that, I also got a reduction in overall warmth. I need to put in more hours with this cable to understand if there’s other changes. I’m not sure which cable I preferer. But the fact that it made such a noticeable difference is a standout. It reminds me of how noticeable Utopia cable swapping is. (And it gives me anxiety over how expensive cable swapping will be.) If anyone has cable recommendations I’m all ears…

Overall, the Expanse are keepers for me. If for no other reason, I love having them on my head! :smiley: and the sound quality is very enjoyable for me, not fatiguing, fun to listen to. With the price falling into the $2.5k to $2.8k range, I think these are well priced on the used market. But my gut feeling is they need the right signal chain to shine.

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anyone else experiment with the DCA Expanse?

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It’s almost been a week so sure :stuck_out_tongue:

I think it’s a good headphone to add to an existing collection. If I already had a dynamic headphone like the Verite or Utopia, then I would choose an Expanse over a Susvara as my second headphone. Mostly because it is more comfortable and better built while still having amazing detail retrieval.

The Expanse sounded much better with brain burn-in, I found myself enjoying it more after a month of listening. At this point I wouldn’t describe it as dead, just less exciting than most other headphones. I’ve only tried it with the Ferrum OOR and HYPSOS, so I’d be curious to see how it sounds with higher end amps.

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Been using the Expanse here for a couple of days at home.
I’m quite certain I’m underpowering it but still able to get a good sense of what it’s going for.
Early impressions:

  • It’s super comfortable - similar tier to Meze Elite but I feel the Elite might be better for my head size and shape?
  • Sound is unobtrusive and great for background listening - was a better option than Utopia when I was reading a book I needed to get through quickly
  • Detail level is very high
  • Stage isn’t huge but has quite accurate placement and separation
  • I’m not even sure if I’m using the stock cable but I don’t like the connectors fwiw
  • Sound isn’t leaking much outside of the headphones, it also doesn’t feel the most open when listening. Depending on one’s preference that can be a good or bad thing, I’d prefer it more airy and open.

I’ll wait before I post more sound impressions to test it with the Z10e which supposedly is a good pairing and definitely more powerful than my MZ3. Might get some solid state to try with it as well.

I can see why people like it a lot, I think it can compliment a collection for some specific roles.
It can’t be my daily driver and MSRP is probably too high imo but my impressions might change with more proper amplification.

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Thanks for posting your early impressions! Looking forward to hearing your more detailed assessment.

I’ve had mine for a little over 3 months, and I think your overall view here is pretty accurate. I’m currently rotating between OG utopia and DCA expanse (with a little Radiance in between from time to time). I can daily drive the expanse for no more than a week, and then I need to mix it up. Usually these are on the main listening chain for 2-3 days, then back to utopia for a couple weeks.

I do think the Expanse is more signal chain sensitive than it’s given credit for. It needs lots of clean power to come alive and start protecting a decent soundstage. I’m running mine on a HPA V550, which does the job, but I wouldn’t want much less power than this. Similar to the utopia, the expanse does a good job of rewarding signal chain improvements: changes in dac, power, cables, etc are pretty noticable.

Price wise, I think the used market is about right: $2500-$2800. Anything over $3k is nuts for what these do. Long term, I would expect used to settle in around $2k, similar to a used Utopia.

One use case I keep coming back to with these is movie watching. The tuning does a nice job of being detailed and precise without becoming harsh/fatiguing in action/sci-fi movies (which is almost all I watch😁). And the low end reaches down far enogh to give a sense of rumble and movement.

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I think that’s pretty much true of DCA planars.

I’ve listened to Stealth and an Aeon RT open, same was true for them. Aeon is not at the same level, but was the case nonetheless…

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I have a bit of a modded setup here.
I use the Aeon 2 Closed with perforated pads (= Noire in red) (newer non-squishy pads introduced in '22) with a Forza Copper HPC Mk2 cable (newer version, I listened to the older version which was designed for the standard pads, it brought the bass up too much, makes sense since the 2 Closed is brighter sounding). I use the thick black filters right now. (too thin sounding without filters, I suspect it’s the 12-13 khz peak). Acoustic guitars, percussion, bass on Singer Songwriter/Folk/MPB sound spot on, soundstage size just about perfect (not too large, not too intimate). All listening done on Amber 3 + MZ 2 combo, thick black filters. The thin black filters seem to be more v-shaped, bass starts to interfere with mids and treble becomes sharper (cymbals). Soundstage might shrink as well.

Only problem I’ve had so far was sound cutting out slowly and then completely disappearing on the right side, unplugging and plugging it back in seemed to solve the issue. Doesn’t seem to happen often so far. No clue what causes it.

I auditioned for the DCA E3 at Moon Audio since I was always curious about that headphone compared to the Atrium Closed. I also made an appointment to try the Susvara Unveiled, but unfortunately, someone bought the demo unit right before I came in. So my entire 2 hour audition session was just focusing on comparing the DCA E3 to the Atrium Closed and I listened to the Utopia OG and DCA Stealth for fun.

  • Setup:
    They told they usually don’t double book audition, but there was someone still using the main audition setup, so I got just the Matrix Audio Element i2 DAC/Streamer (I think, I didn’t really ask what it was). I did say I only needed a DAC and streamer since I was going to bring my Allnic HPA-5000XL amp and the Atrium Closed to compare to the DCA E3 and the Mysphere 3.2 compared to the Susvara Unveiled (if they still had the demo unit they told me they had).

So the setup is some Matrix Audio DAC/Streamer (Moon Audio)> Allnic HPA-50000XL (Mine) > DCA E3 (Moon Audio) / Atrium Closed Olive Wood LTD [Mesh Plate Mod] (Mine). The audition was only for about 2 hours.

Source was Roon using Tidal FLAC files

https://open.qobuz.com/playlist/23367190

^ This is my Test Tracks Playlist I created for the audition. Only went through maybe 1/3 of it (about 12 songs)? In some tracks, I listened partially to the song since I am on a time limit, but I did at least listen to my favorite songs fully since this was an audition if I wanted to buy the DCA E3 or not. The audition was really limited on time limit since it was near the end of day, but it was enough to give me a good idea of what the DCA E3 is about.

  • DCA E3 Final Thoughts On The Moon Audio Audition:

The E3 is a really freaking good headphone. It has really nice clarity from bottom to top. Midrange clarity, especially vocals is really good and much better compare to the Atrium Closed. The Atrium vocals is much more richer and fuller, but the E3 vocal clarity is just on another level. I had no issues with female vocals on various recording on the DCA E3 and experience no harshness. The DCA E3 is not exactly smooth, but it’s just the right amount of edge to my ears.

I thought the dynamics were pretty good, especially for percussions like in the track Poem of Chinese Drum sounded great on the DCA E3. The DCA E3 is a deep soundstage sounding headphone. While the DCA E3 Soundstage depth is really good for a headphone in general, my issue with the DCA E3 soundstage at least compared to the Atrium Closed is the soundstage width is pretty small in comparison and corners seem to “disappear” (like there is no sound there) making it feel less 3D than the Atrium Closed to me. The DCA E3 really do sound like its just front, back, left, and right soundstage. But still, the DCA E3 still sounds pretty spacious compared to a lot of cheaper closed backs I tried before like a lot of the vintage ATH woodies and the DCA E3 soundstage depth is very impressive even compared to the Atrium closed. I would say its pretty close in terms of soundstage depth, but it was a quick comparison. Imaging and instrumental separation is better on the Atrium Closed. Because on this, I feel like it’s easier to pick up smaller details on the Atrium Closed making it feel like its the more detailed headphone to me. It’s probably thanks to the Atrium Closed much wider soundstage. On the DCA E3, vocals seem to cut through the music more, making it more of the “main star” in music to me whenever vocals gets involved. Meanwhile, the Atrium Closed vocals seem more “normal” in terms of presentation to me and vocals don’t really stand out when it shouldn’t at least how I’m used to with my other gears. With the DCA E3, I wouldn’t say the vocals are more forward, but the vocals are pretty much in my head and the music took a step back, at least that’s how I felt. That makes the DCA E3 vocals stand out much more compared to the Atrium Closed.

In terms of bass, the DCA E3 is pretty good, but the Atrium Closed is much better through extension and visceral impact. Going through EDM songs like “Antares - CloZee” to an acoustic instrument like “Poem of Chinese Drum”, I can hear more subbass and feel more visceral impact on the Atrium Closed. I never realized how good the Atrium Closed visceral impact because I am more used to my Platimon speaker visceral bass. The Atrium Closed bass visceral impact is really good for a headphone. Again DCA E3 bass is still pretty good and I had no issues with it, its just not comparable to Atrium Closed.

In terms of listening to pop songs and bad recording, I say its preference, but both headphones does it well. I mod the Atrium Closed by installing the mesh plate on it so the upper midrange is more smooth to me while the DCA E3 had some edge to it. But a lot of recordings sound more “clearer” on the DCA E3.

Atrium Closed is easier to get loud compared to the DCA E3. I say it’s easier to drive the Atrium Closed compared to the DCA E3.

Overall, I really liked the DCA E3, especially for its clarity it provides for vocals. If this was the old me where I used to like vocals sticking out of the music and is always the main star, I think I would’ve love the DCA E3. But I really like soundstage right now in my audio gears and if I wanted vocal clarity, my Platimon VC 1 speaker and Mysphere 3.2 provide a much much clearer vocal than the DCA E3. So I think I will probably stick with the Atrium Closed because I like the soundstage presentation more and the bass on the Atrium Closed.

Bonus Thoughts
I had fun chitchatting with the Moon Audio sales rep. I am not too sure how genuine his replies were to me, but I think I sold him the idea of the Mysphere 3.2 lol. When he told me the Susvara Unveiled demo unit just got sold and he was sorry that I wasn’t informed. He told me I could try the Susvara instead and I told “I’m good”. That was when I told him about the Mysphere 3.2 and showed him the headphones. He looked genuinely surprised and interested in the Mysphere 3.2 so I continue explaining the headphone to him of how cool they look and how everything is magentically attached to each other. He ask me the price and I told him its like $2K average for used and the lowest I saw was probably around $1500 - $1700 because I couldn’t remember the lowest used price I saw. After I told him the price, he took a picture of the mysphere 3.2 and told me he wants blind buy one lol. I warned him that its amp picky not because its hard to drive (I told him its easy to drive), but you want high quality gear and high quality recording in order for it to shine as its quite picky. I hope if he do buy one that he give it a real chance and wear it correctly. I offer to him he can listen to it, but it was passed closing time and he was really nice in letting wrap up my last listening session with the Focal Utopia OG since I spent way too much time on the DCA E3 comparison on the Atrium Closed. So in the end, he didn’t get to listen to the Mysphere 3.2.

Another thought is that this experience got me really loving my home setup and appreciate it more! My current antipodes S series source and Mystique Evo B4B 21 DAC are very revealing in the music. It makes the Atrium Closed sound much more detailed compared to the DAC Moon Audio DAC/Streamer let me use for the audition. I feel like on the Atrium Closed on my home setup, I can hear much more nuance and tiny details in the music and instrumental separation is on a greater scale!

I also talked if Moon Audio is open on the idea of hosting local meet and inviting local NC users on headfi, similar to what Schiit does, but it can be on their HQ since they some audition rooms. The sales rep told me maybe, but it doesn’t seem like a lot of NC users are interested in that kind of stuff. After the last thread for a local NC meet on headfi, I agree as the thread died because of a lack of interest. If there is another NC meetup, idk if I will attend anyway as the rest of the year is going to be busy :pensive:

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I am not going to lie… I can’t stop thinking about the DCA E3 lol. I am thinking about selling the Atrium Closed for it, but just thinking about it for now. I wanted to know if I buy brand new from the official DCA website, I heard they have a loyalty program where you get discounted deals on buying brand new DCA products. Is that true? Because if that is the case I rather buy new than buy used. Does anyone hear that if that is the case?

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Don’t sell your AC for it! :scream_cat: :laughing:

Yes, they do have a loyalty program where you get an automatic 15% discount on future purchases of their products. I believe you have to make an initial purchase at full price, and then you are enrolled. I don’t recall exactly now, so don’t hold me to that.

It’s called Club DCA, you may want to email them for clarification.

https://danclarkaudio.com/club-dca.html

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My one observation on DCA headphones in general is that they do seem to lack the overall dynamic “slam” factor that you alluded to in your earlier listening impressions on the E3.

I own the Aeon RT Open (it was my first “big boy” planar, >$500), and have spent some time with both the Expanse and Stealth at different small events where I could really spend some time with them.

I was very impressed with both in different ways, and if someone handed me one of them and said use these for a time I’d be excited to have them.

But I feel all the Dan Clark headphones I’ve heard don’t have the dynamics or bass slam of a top DD headphone, or even other planars I own or have heard. You would definitely be trading away those qualities of your AC if you get the E3 and sell your ZMF. Unless you’re not happy with your AC…

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Thanks for the link to the reward program! I will probably either buy a cheap DCA to get myself setup for it in the future or just jump on board with the E3.

The E3 been tempting because it was really comfortable and it’s easier to take with me.

As you said as well, the dynamics on the AC is much better and honestly I only felt like the DCA E3 does better was midrange resolution and that’s it. I thought the AC did better in everything else. I also got 2 more audio equipment that is much better at midrange resolution which is my Mysphere 3.2 and Platimon speaker. Platimon speakers does everything better for me, but it’s a speaker so I can’t take it with me everywhere I go.

I’ve been thinking more for portable uses, but I still need a closed back for home use. AC seem pretty risky with its beautiful wood to take outside my home while the gorilla glass on the E3 feels more reassuring taking on travels with me. I thought about the E3 as killing 2 birds with one stone as portable for travels and closed back for home use. I should probably look into more iem for portable use rather than the E3 since the E3 is supposed to be harder to drive for portable setup like DAPs and iem are easier to store vs the E3.

Thanks for talking some sense to me before I did some impulse buy lol. I am going look more into iem to match with the HiBy R8ii.

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My current setup for this 1st night with the DCA Stealth:

ROON Rock - Intel NUC 7i7 > Antipodes S Series Set (S30, S20, S60) > [AudioQuest Carbon USB, Silver Sonic D-110 AES] > Mojo Audio Mystique EVO B4B 21 > [Anticables 6.2 RCA] Custom Supratek Cabernet DHT > [Allnic Mu-7R XLR] Allnic HPA-5000XL amp > [Hart audio 4.4mm to XLR converter, Stock 4.4mm cable] DCA Stealth

Supratek Cabernet DHT Tubes:
(2) Psvane Horizon 2A3, (2) Late 40s RCA Grey Glass 6SN7GT, (2) RCA 6L6GC, (1) Wathen Cryotone 5U4G-WC

I traded my ZMF Atrium Closed Olivewood for the DCA Stealth. So far on the DCA Stealth, comfort is a big A+ for me. I really like it so far, but let’s see in 3 months with long usage. Clarity, details, and imaging sounds pretty next level to me coming from the Atrium Closed. Soundstage depth is amazing on the Stealth, but idk how it compare to the Atrium Closed without A/Bing it. The DCA Stealth sounds pretty close to the E3 from memory. Both headphones really like making vocals the main star of the music at least on my amp. But music doesn’t sound like it’s in the background on the Stealth compare to the E3 where I felt vocals were more forward. It sounds more balance on the Stealth on music and vocals, yet for some reason, vocals cut through the music more on my setup. But I like it because vocals to me sound really good on the DCA Stealth. Not as transparent as the Mysphere 3.2, but the DCA Stealth is really clear and smooth to my ears. But also of how much vocals stand out on the DCA Stealth, you can really hear and understand what the vocalist is saying very clearly and the Stealth provide so much detail of the vocalist pronunciation. Details of vocals is really amazing so far.

I think anyone that said the DCA Stealth have really good impact from the other forums, I don’t think they’re right so far… Macro-dynamics exist, but that’s about it. Coming from the Atrium Closed which to me is one of the best dynamics I ever heard, it’s a pretty noticeable downgrade on the Stealth. What’s pretty weird is the DCA Stealth got really good subbass. Hearing subbass and getting some subbass visceral impact without some big macro-dynamics is kinda weird lol. Listening to some EDM tracks like CloZee Microworlds, Childhood, and Anteres is really good. But listening to classical orchestra like Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique Movement 4 Marche Au Supplice, around 5 minute mark is where it get pretty disappointing because of the lack of impact on the timpani. In fact, it might be the most disappointing I ever heard that piece because that’s my favorite part lol. Everything else sounded really good, especially strings. But then, I switch to Hok-man Yim Poem of Chinese Drums where this is a percussion only piece of just the Chinese drum. I turn the volume really high and what do you know, I got hard hitting impact! The impact at this volume is really amazing, but I had to put this in pretty much deafening volume which is unlistenable in most other tracks at this volume.

Volume I did for Poem Of Chinese Drum to get the impact I wanted.

Volume of what it actual looks like for other tracks:

My Supratek preamp is always about 50% whenever I use my headphone amp.

I got curious and put on Red Hot Chili Peppers Give It Away to hear what the drums would sound like on the DCA Stealth. The drums is my favorite sound in that song…:man_shrugging:

While my memory of the Atrium Closed is still fresh, the DCA Stealth at least on this 1st impression is a more technical headphone as far as resolution (minimum distortion), clarity, and it provides a lot of details. But the ZMF Atrium Closed to me feels like a better all rounder for a closed back while the DCA Stealth seems more of a specialist to me. It’s because the Atrium Closed besides its amazing dynamics, honestly does everything pretty well. I don’t think there is a glaring weakness to the Atrium Closed (at least the one I modded: Solid Mesh plate mod and Bokeh Suede pad) compare to the DCA Stealth glaring weakness. But the strengths that the DCA Stealth excel is really amazing that I don’t really get with any other headphone at least from memory (yes, I really like how vocals are presented on the DCA Stealth. I really am curious how the DCA Stealth sound if I’m using 45 tubes :thinking:). I will say in exchange going from the Atrium Closed to the DCA Stealth, this is smoother experience. The DCA Stealth is much easier to listen to and you’ll melt into the music. Combine it with its high quality comfort, this is a really nice headphone to just sit back and listen to for hours which was my goal with this headphone.

People say that the DCA Stealth change for the better with burn in. I don’t know how many hours this DCA Stealth actually have, but I’m still looking forward in spending more time with this headphone.

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Alright. So I used the DCA Stealth for about 9 hours with maybe 3 or 4 breaks to do something else. My neck feels…fine. I think that’s really awesome on how weightless it feels during usage. No pressure pain or pain related to my neck. Comfort is top on the DCA Stealth. Another thing that I was impressed with is with how non fatigue I feel from listening to the DCA Stealth. Obviously this wasn’t a critical listening session, it’s more a background listen. Every song was pleasant and I didn’t had the urge to turn down the volume for any song. I listened to a lot of pop and Jpop songs within those 9 hours. The DCA Stealth to me handle pop songs very well. It doesn’t have visceral bass you might want in some pop songs, but the DCA Stealth is very forgiving with the way it just smooth out the music making every listen a pleasant one. And the best part is that the DCA Stealth is still highly resolving and brings a lot of detail at the same time of being forgiving sounding. The DCA Stealth sounds much better with a decently high volume. Low volume listening is not as good as the presentation to me would be too soft for my taste.

I decided to go with the Moon Audio Black Dragon cable for the DCA Stealth since I don’t really have a true XLR output cable for the it. I probably won’t get it for a while, but looking forward what that cable will bring to the DCA Stealth. The more I listen to this headphone, the more I am becoming a fan lol.

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Glad you like the DCA stealth. Have been using mine for 3 years now.
I tried the songs you mentioned and can mostly agree with your assesment. That chinese drums song had me jumping out of my chair. That was the biggest impact I have heard to date.
And that red hot chili peppers song was not mastered really well because I had to set the volume much lower to get it to listenable volume. But I got the drums through loud and clear.
I havent heard the atrium but my previous headphone was the verite closed. For me the impact with the DCA stealth was as described at the start. But with other source gear and time it has improved.
Happy listening

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Yep, Poem of Chinese Drum is one of my favorite piece to test out pure percussion. The impact on that piece is thunderous!

Red hot chilli peppers music is known to be mastered awfully bad. But most rock songs I do like isn’t well master tbh. Even one of my favorite one which is Voodoo Child (Slight Return) is really an awesome experience on the DCA Stealth because a lot of strings even the electric guitar sound really fantastic on the DCA Stealth. But my main focus of that song is the electric guitar. Volume is really key with the DCA Stealth at the end to get really good slam and impact.

Yesterday I was testing out my DAP HiBy R8ii and was curious how classical orchestra does on the DCA Stealth on that DAP. I played Beethoven Pastoral because Beethoven to me is my go to for dynamics and I just really like Pastoral. Playing movement IV Gewitter, Sturm. Allegro during the first whole minute, I thought the DCA Stealth display it phenomenal. Those dynamics were display mostly through the strings and woodwinds. They were still the timpani for percussion, but it wasn’t the main focus, so I wonder if percussion being the main star is my only issue with the DCA Stealth so far? Obviously the DCA Stealth is capable of slam and impact, but only in a high volume setting and to me the other instruments “get in the way” because their volume will be getting higher as well. It’s still smooth even on higher volume, but I typically don’t really like listening to music too loud.

The more time I listened to the Stealth, the more it’s slam and impact becomes pretty normal to me where I currently don’t see it as too much of an issue compare to when I first listen to it. I will say though on a lot Jpop songs, the midbass on the DCA Stealth is pretty punchy. I know listening to pop and rock songs on TOTL is overkill, but the DCA Stealth can be pretty engaging to me if midbass got that punch in the song.

I still ordered the moon audio black dragon cable though for more “engagement” on the bass since the black dragon was advertised and recommended for the Stealth. I’m getting it today, so I’m looking forward to that synergy.

To me, the more listening on the Stealth, the more I really appreciate what this headphone does. But out of curiosity, what is your current audio chain for the DCA Stealth and what headphone cable do you use?

Good to hear your enjoying the DCA stealth even with the different take than the ZMF’s.
My current chain:
SW1X VDT3 SPX(streamer)- Merason DAC1 mk2-Feliks Audio Envy-DCA Stealth
The SW1x streamer is my most recent update to the chain and really brought the overall experience up to very engaging. Using the DCA stealth still with stock vivo cable as are most of my other used cables. I want to first focus on the main equipment before I dive into that. The eny also still using the stock tubes. And also planning on trying the mysphere on the envy.
I havent read much on what aftermarket cables work best on the DCA so I’m a bit hesitant. With my mysphere plan I was thinking of trying the brise cable also on the stealth.

Regarding the volume, yes I go higher on well mastered music, but that music doesnt seem to bother me as much. Listening to most pop/rock is very fatiguing to me even low volume.
Beethoven symphony 5 and 7 are a real treat.

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Nice chain :+1:. For aftermarket cables, I think the Vivo stock cables seem pretty good. I swap from that to the Moon Audio Black Dragon Premium cable and the difference is barely noticeable which is good. Because to me, that means the stock cable is pretty good already that it doesn’t really need to change compare when I swap the Mysphere stock cable to my other headphone ribbon cable where it made a noticeable improve difference.

As for the Mysphere, you will enjoy it. The Mysphere is, at least the 3.2 from my experience, is more of a specialist compare to the DCA Stealth. I personally would only listen to acoustic music like classical music or female vocals with acoustics on the Mysphere. In terms of ultimate clarity, for the headphones I owned in the past, it’s still going to be: Mysphere 3.2 (I still owned); Susvara; and Raal SR1a. I think compare to all three headphones I mentioned, the DCA Stealth is a step behind for at least midrange clarity. I am not confident on my memories to say Susvara bass is cleaner, but I am confident to say the Raal SR1a got the cleanest sounding bass I ever heard for a headphone/ear speaker. The DCA Stealth is also a step behind bass clarity to something like the Raal SR1a. What the DCA Stealth to me stands out is that it’s a really comfy and smooth headphone to listen to. The Stealth on my chain is smoother than Susvara (from memory) and it’s a relaxing experience. In terms of being natural sounding, I’m still going through various of genres and recording. But I don’t think the DCA Stealth is as natural sounding as the Mysphere 3.2 and Raal SR1a. The DCA Stealth is still pretty natural sounding to a degree, just not my top 3. What make those three natural sounding to me is on good recording, they make my entire audio gear disappear and really trick my brain on how real it is. Susvara is still a natural sounding headphone to me and it do sometimes “disappear”, but the Raal SR1a and Mysphere feel more consistent on that. And then comparing the Raal SR1a to the Mysphere on my chain, Mysphere 3.2 is more consistent in being natural as it can be and “disappear”. For music to sound natural to me for the ultimate immersive experience, I value transparent mids. That is something the Mysphere have been pretty consistent for me and why it’s still the most natural sounding headphone I owned/heard. There are other factors as well such as soundstage, imaging, dynamics, etc. but the mids is just still king to me.

But yep, the Mysphere is a step up from the DCA Stealth, so if you get one enjoy! I think your tube amp is transformer coupled, so the Mysphere 3.1 might work better, but I suggest asking the main Mysphere thread for recommendation on the 3.1 vs 3.2.

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Thank you for the kind words and advise. Was looking at the allnic amp at some point, but find a dealer to demo near me.
For now i’m mostly stuck with closed back to keep the family happy and vica versa when listening to music. But as the kids are getting older the window for a open back is opening.
The DCA stealth has been a real pleasure the last few years as I was figuring out my tastes with new and more expensive gear. The headphone keeps getting better with better source.

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Closed back is really nice and convenient which is why I wanted to keep one in my collection. I learned when I let my sister’s family stay over for the 4th of July, I actually cannot use my speakers anymore and barely use my open-backs lol. My sister has a pet dog and I thought I soundproofed it enough, but her dog will always bark. I could play around 50 - maybe 60db on speakers while being close to them but switched to open back headphones because I knew dogs’ ears are extra sensitive. Open back with the door open, I could hear everything in the hallway using the Mysphere 3.2. Closed-back was the only real solution in isolating myself to enjoy music at a decently loud volume that I usually like and letting others have their peace.